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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 29 Jul 2016, 19:02

My sentiments are somewhat similar about religion. However, I am not about to condemn every so called religious person, because they think the opposite of me. Nor will I do any harm to them because we disagree. That would make me equal to daesh and all the other terrorist wannabe's.


I wasn't intending to dissect, behead, blow up. just educate! It doesn't matter how many there are, they are still all wrong! The mass of contradiction, the total lack of evidence, the crazy violence that they all tap dance around in the various bibles, and more, should all be compulsory teaching in schools. As should be logic, reason, and science. And by force if required. They must be de-programmed or they will just damage their own children's brains and rinse and repeat....

Because I do NOT believe that they have any right to believe in this bollocks, because their irrational brain washing always affects others. They have repeatedly shown that they cannot just keep it to themselves. Hence the bits of bodies landing all over and endless violence throughout history.

Think about this. Education level and religiosity are in direct inverse proportion. There are many studies that show this.
Of the USAs TOP scientists, under 2 percent believe in a god or gods. (And the real question is why do 2% believe!)
Of the black areas, or prisons, its way over 90%...

The countries like the 3rd world African xstians, middle east muslims, are EXTREMELY religious and both are killing in violent cruel ways daily. Many educated European countries like the UK or Denmark are just not religous. I don't even know of anyone here that would even dare admit it for fear of ridicule! Education and the internet, and the spread of information that's happening around the world today is rapidly destroying religion in the younger generations. Let there be light!

So its already happening. Even in the USA there is a lot of youngsters that think gods are some crazy thoughts that came from too many drugs in the 60s...
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 02 Aug 2016, 15:46

Why is it, that whenever any religiously motivated crap is on the news, and that's every time I turn it on, they go out of their way to avoid using the word muslim.

We get terrorist. Extremist. Islamic terror group. IS. Isil, mental issues, fundamentalist, depressed, radicalized, mental health issues Etc.

They wont say the word "muslim" even though almost every last one is...

Just been looking at some plane crash investigations. 2 of them were suicides that were muslim pilots. Again, they used the words mental problem, which sums up all religion and 'possible radicalization'. They dare not say it. 'Muslim'...
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Sully » 02 Aug 2016, 17:10

>>>>>>The only difference between a religion and a superstition is the degree of social acceptance it enjoys.<<<<<

Unfortunately, religion has social acceptance, those who oppose such superstitions cannot risk such opposition against such a societal accepted belief, we are simply out numbered. However there are some attempts being made; please notice how this effort is being made to look as some sort of brainwashing,rather than liberating effort.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/an-after-school-satan-club-could-be-coming-to-your-kid%E2%80%99s-elementary-school/ar-BBv3xzp?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=UP97DHP

I believe the ultimate goal is to get any religious teaching or indoctrination banned from tax supported schools. That would be a good start.


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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Sully » 02 Aug 2016, 17:22

I believe that the NON use of the word Muslim is to prevent the mayhem that might result by individualizing the Muslims out to the masses. THe efforts at discrediting the leadership and the superstitions and so called religious beliefs they foster in the name of their imaginary not so friendly god. So it may well be to prevent more hate and discontent (civil war)!




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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 02 Aug 2016, 18:40

I believe the ultimate goal is to get any religious teaching or indoctrination banned from tax supported schools. That would be a good start.


Since its child abuse and damages them for life, AND their future offspring, and on, it should be absolutely illegal. Forget schools, should be illegal in their own homes, churches, or ANYWHERE! People should face the exact same punishment as for physical harm or sexual abuse. It PHYSICALLY alters their brain structure while its still very 'plastic' as they grow up.

I believe that the NON use of the word Muslim is to prevent the mayhem that might result by individualizing the Muslims out to the masses. The efforts at discrediting the leadership and the superstitions and so called religious beliefs they foster in the name of their imaginary not so friendly god. So it may well be to prevent more hate and discontent (civil war)!


Thats exactly why it it SHOULD be used. Then they might stand up against it if they don't agree. In a survey done recently by a national paper, 47% of Young British Muslims said they agreed with what isis do. They just don't say it in public. Almost as many want sharia law in the UK. Once there are enough it will happen.


THE IDEA THAT ITS JUST A FEW NUTTERS And that most Muslims are 'nice' is absolutely wrong.
Just scan the following for a few secs... It may change your opinion. Trump is an idiot, but on Muslims he is absolutely right and doesn't go far enough.
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ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... in-UK.html

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/ ... 2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

Channel Four (2006): 31% of younger British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified compared to 14% of those over 45.
http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/images ... n%2007.pdf

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://people-press.org/report/206/a-ye ... r-iraq-war

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/ ... fanticide/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 51,00.html

World Public Opinion:
83% of Egyptians approve of attacks on American troops.
26% of Indonesians approve of attacks on American troops.
26% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on American troops.
68% of Moroccans approve of attacks on American troops.
90% of Palestinians approve of attacks on American troops.
72% of Jordanians approve of attacks on American troops.
52% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (39% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on American troops.
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/ ... 09_rpt.pdf

World Public Opinion (2009): 30% of Palestinians support attacks on American civilians working in Muslim countries. 24% support the murder of Americans on U.S. soil.
Only 74% of Turks and 55% of Pakistanis disapprove of terror attacks against civilians on U.S. soil.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/ ... 09_rpt.pdf

Pew Research (2010):
55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims ... hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010):
60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims ... hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010):
15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims ... hezbollah/

16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/art ... baar.dhtml

Populus Poll (2006):
12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07 ... h-islamist

Pew Research (2007):
26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-as ... df#page=60

Pew Research (2011):
8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/ ... extremism/

Pew Research (2007):
Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-as ... df#page=60

27% of British Muslims do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07 ... amist.html

Federation of Student Islamic Societies:
About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07 ... h-islamist

ICM Poll:
25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07 ... h-islamist

Populus Poll (2006):
16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07 ... h-islamist

World Public Opinion:
Majorities in Egypt (63%) and Libya (61%) supported the 9/11/2012 attacks against American embassies, including Benghazi.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/ ... d=&pnt=727

Pew Research (2013):
At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/T ... report.pdf

Pew Research (2013):
15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/T ... report.pdf

PCPO (2014):
89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/poll- ... on-israely

Pew Research (2013):
Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/mus ... st-groups/

BBC Radio (2015):
45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam".
http://www.comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-radio ... slim-poll/

Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015):
74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/support-fo ... oll-shows/

Pew Research (2014):
47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to "defend Islam". 1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt. 1 in 5 Muslims in the 'moderate' countries of Turkey and Malaysia.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/con ... ddle-east/

The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015):
19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/ ... l-Data.pdf

The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015):
25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/ ... l-Data.pdf

The Sun (2015:
Following Nov. 2015 attacks in Paris, 1 in 4 young Muslims in Britain (and 1 in 5 overall) said they sympathize with those who fight for ISIS.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... -poll.html

ICM (2016):
2 in 3 Muslims in Britain would not report terror plot to police.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/a ... 730825.ece

There are 100s more but you get the idea. This isn't a minority of Muslim nutters. This is the delusional religion of violence. There is no nice way to view this if you look at the actual figures and acts. It simply is what it is. The media continue to push the illusion of most Muslims are nice and then theirs a few that are 'radicalised'... Its just not true.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 02 Aug 2016, 21:37

I believe that the NON use of the word Muslim is to prevent the mayhem that might result by individualizing the Muslims out to the masses. THe efforts at discrediting the leadership and the superstitions and so called religious beliefs they foster in the name of their imaginary not so friendly god. So it may well be to prevent more hate and discontent (civil war)!


You are worried about a bit of mayhem?


Some facts about muslims/islam http://nfse.co.uk/?m=ShowNews&group=1&show=4795#4795

Worldwide the UN estimates there are:

1.6 billion Christians.
15 million Jews.
1.4 billion Muslims (Islam).


Terrorist attacks since 9/11 worldwide are:

Christians=0
Jews=0
Islam=25,544

The ‘religion’ of Love and Peace doesn't seem to live up to it's claim.

Not one single Islamic country, state, government allows a non-Muslim to be a president, premier, king, prince or leader. It is strictly forbidden in all their constitution type government documents whether following Sharia or not. It is specifically addressed.

More Muslims have been killed, raped, tortured, maimed, starved and displaced by other Muslims than any other force or cause.

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims'



Think of this:

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

However:

Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM


Which leads to:

They’re not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan



So, where are they happy?

They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India
They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!

Who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves... THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!! And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy.

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

AND A LOT MORE!!!!!!!

What muslims are told to do by their koran:

Kill any one who insults Islam or Moham-mad. (Koran.33;57-61).
Kill all Muslims who leave Islam. (Koran.2;217/4;89/Bukhari.9;84-57).
Koran can not be doubted. (Koran.2;1).
Islam is the only acceptable religion. (Koran.3;85).
Muslims must fight (jihad) to non-Muslims, even if they don't want to. (Koran.2;216).
We the non-Muslims are pigs and apes. (Koran. 2;62-65/Koran.5;59-60/Koran.7;166).
We the non-Muslims cannot be friends with Muslims. (Koran.5;51).
We the non-Muslims sworn enemies of Muslims and Islam. (Koran.4;101).
We the non-Muslims can be raped as sex slave. (Koran.4;3 & 24/5;89/23;5/33;50/58;3/70;30).
We the non-Muslims the vilest of creatures deserving no mercy. (Koran.98;6).
Muslim must terrorized us (non-Muslims). (Koran.8;12 &59-60/ Bukhari.4;52;220).
Muslims must strike terror into non-Muslims hearts. (Koran.8;60).
Muslims must lie to us (non-Muslims) to strengthen and spread Islam. (Koran.3;28?16;106).
Muslims are allowed to behead us (non_Muslims) (Koran.47;4).
Muslims are guaranteed to go to heaven if they kill us (non-Muslims). (Koran.9;111).
Marrying and divorcing pre-pubescent children is OK. (Koran.65;4).
Wife beating is OK. (Koran.4;34).
Raping wives is OK. (Koran.2;223).
Proving rape requires 4 (four) male Muslim witnesses. (Koran.24;13).
Muslims are allowed to crucify and amputate us (non-Muslims). Koran.8;12/47;4).


What does that tell you about islam?
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Lord Chatterley » 05 Aug 2016, 04:39

They think the "religion of peace" mantra is absurd.

"Disbelief is the primary reason we hate you."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HYLiMaj9Ak

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 05 Aug 2016, 09:42

The west think that they (ISIS) are some 'special' group of 'nasty' Muslims that are terrorists.

They think all the others are nice or peaceful. Even though they are basically the same thing.
They are full of western style political correctness that has brainwashed them to the point where they all know religions are full of 'nice' people.

This I already know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HYLiMaj9Ak Everyone should watch it.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 06 Aug 2016, 08:55

The 'non terror related' guy who hacked and stabbed a bunch of people in london recently killing one american, turns out to be a somali muslim with mental problems. What a surprise. Well being religious and esp muslim is a mental problem so yes. He was...
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Lord Chatterley » 08 Aug 2016, 22:49

Burgerman wrote:The 'non terror related' guy who hacked and stabbed a bunch of people in london recently killing one american, turns out to be a somali muslim with mental problems. What a surprise. Well being religious and esp muslim is a mental problem so yes. He was...


He had studied jihad :roll: but, according to the MSM, that isn't relevant -

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=55307

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 08 Aug 2016, 23:04

They all lie. Neither is the word Muslim used. It was and never is mentioned now. Just terrorist.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 09 Aug 2016, 01:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eukZMN11ubE

This was a MUSLIM ATTACK. Before political correctness became the 'big problem'. I think the real 'big problem' is lots of dead sane politically correct people.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 11 Aug 2016, 19:07

WALL STREET JOURNAL ARTICLE
http://www.wsj.com/articles/britains-mu ... 1460504305

HILLSDALE COLLEGE - THE LEGAL GUY WHO DEFENDED THE WTC BOMBERS
https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/islam-facts-or-dreams/

Avery interesting read. Esp the 2nd one.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 11 Aug 2016, 19:24

Heres page 2

Three weeks before Christmas, a jihadist couple—an American citizen, the son of Pakistani immigrants, and his Pakistani wife who had been welcomed into our country on a fiancée visa—carried out a jihadist attack in San Bernardino, California, killing 14 people. Our government, as with the case in Fort Hood—where a jihadist who had infiltrated the Army killed 13 innocents, mostly fellow soldiers—resisted calling the atrocity a “terrorist attack.” Why? Our investigators are good at what they do, and our top officials may be ideological, but they are not stupid. Why is it that they can’t say two plus two equals four when Islam is involved?

The reason is simple: stubbornly unwilling to deal with the reality of Islam, our leaders have constructed an Islam of their very own. This triumph of willful blindness and political correctness over common sense was best illustrated by former British Home Secretary Jacqui Smith when she described terrorism as “anti-Islamic activity.” In other words, the savagery is not merely unrelated to Islam; it becomes, by dint of its being inconsistent with a “religion of peace,” contrary to Islam. This explains our government’s handwringing over “radicalization”: we are supposed to wonder why young Muslims spontaneously become violent radicals—as if there is no belief system involved.

This is political correctness on steroids, and it has dangerous policy implications. Consider the inability of government officials to call a mass-murder attack by Muslims a terrorist attack unless and until the police uncover evidence proving that the mass murderers have some tie to a designated terrorist group, such as ISIS or al Qaeda. It is rare for such evidence to be uncovered early in an investigation—and as a matter of fact, such evidence often does not exist. Terrorist recruits already share the same ideology as these groups: the goal of imposing sharia. All they need in order to execute terrorist attacks is paramilitary training, which is readily available in more places than just Syria.

The dangerous flipside to our government’s insistence on making up its own version of Islam is that anyone who is publicly associated with Islam must be deemed peaceful. This is how we fall into the trap of allowing the Muslim Brotherhood, the world’s most influential Islamic supremacist organization, to infiltrate policy-making organs of the U.S. government, not to mention our schools, our prisons, and other institutions. The federal government, particularly under the Obama administration, acknowledges the Brotherhood as an Islamic organization—notwithstanding the ham-handed attempt by the intelligence community a few years back to rebrand it as “largely secular”—thereby giving it a clean bill of health. This despite the fact that Hamas is the Brotherhood’s Palestinian branch, that the Brotherhood has a long history of terrorist violence, and that major Brotherhood figures have gone on to play leading roles in terrorist organizations such as al Qaeda.

To quote Churchill again: “Facts are better than dreams.” In the real world, we must deal with the facts of Islamic supremacism, because its jihadist legions have every intention of dealing with us. But we can only defeat them if we resolve to see them for what they are.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Sully » 11 Aug 2016, 19:28

What it all amounts to in not the word actually said and meant ! BUt that which is heard, that which we (they) want to hear and believe, and possibly act upon.


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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 11 Aug 2016, 19:29

Or...

There is coming a point very soon to now, when Western societies are going to have to decide whether "banning a religion" is more offensive as a concept than handing away their culture and freedom. Banning Religion is so offensive a thought, as a concept to many, that free societies find themselves with no choice other than to lie about Islam while it sits on their chest, punching them in the face. Freedom isn't free. We must fight at times - YES ACTUALLY FIGHT - to keep our way of life. Will we fight Islam to keep our freedom?
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 11 Aug 2016, 22:36

I actually think that a few years in the future all religion will be recognised by the atheist countries as a psychiatric medical problem in the same way as other mental illnesses are. And treated in the same way. It is after all a result of brainwashing/conditioning and completely illogical.

Freedom of information, the internet, greater mixing of people, improved education worldwide, will eventually do the job for us. Its doing so now. Atheism is growing faster than religion in all civilised countries. The US remains a strange one, with much more religion than any other western country. Even there, atheism is on the Rise esp by the younger members of society. In the UK the only thing keeping one or two churches open are the old, and the immigrants and turning them into other things like pubs or homes..
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 13 Aug 2016, 23:48

A Swiss national, just poured petrol over a woman on a train stabbed 6 people including child. Apparently its not "terror" related. Thats politically correct for its not a Muslim attack. It hasn't actually SAID he wasn't a Muslim. That isn't mentioned of course because apparently 'normal' Muslims are peaceful. Let me guess.... Sooner or later it will be reported somewhere.
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Postby Burgerman » 16 Aug 2016, 21:54

Ex-Muslim's message to Obama: Islam is the disease, terrorists are just symptoms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7v5xucCsNs horses mouth.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 23 Aug 2016, 11:54

Cant stand Katie Hopkins but sometimes she is just right!

I sat down to watch 'What British Muslims Really think' with my best multicultural head on.

I cleared my mind of all preconceptions; grubby Rochdale cabbies passing white girls round for sex like a fried chicken bargain bucket, Imams beating kids into devotion, and the truly indoctrinated, blowing up Brussels to get 72 virgins in paradise.

Putting my feet up on the recycling bin, channelling my inner Polly Toynbee, I waited to sit corrected - prepared to accept the most dangerous Muslim in Britain is Bake Off's Nadiya Hussain armed with a Victoria Sponge.

But, much as it pains me to say it, I have been right all along. British Muslims are not part of some rich tapestry of urban life. It's a myth, dreamed up by the BBC, and perpetuated by the Islington elite.

It is them and us. And THEY have no wish to be anything like US.

The reason Muslims enjoy our country is because it is tolerant. Not the bits where we are tolerant of each other, you understand. Not the fact we respect your right to be Jewish or utterly ungodly. Or our warm embrace of those who identify as straight, gay, lesbian or as gender-fluid as a snail.

No. They enjoy our country because we are tolerant of their right to be as as prejudiced against Jews and as homophobic as they please.

52% disagree homosexuality should be legalised. Even more oppose gay marriage. Years of British acceptance, now rolled back under a Neanderthal rock because the Koran has come to town. And no one appears to have the moral fibre to point out the hypocrisy of it all; Islamic Societies are proliferating across every University campus, the same safe spaces where any view not militantly pro-LGBTQ is rightly petitioned into silence.


Bakers in Ireland are persecuted if they don't wish to bake a cake celebrating gay marriage, the law demanding their compliance.

But UK Muslims - they can be as homophobic as they choose.

This tolerance they enjoy in the UK is not valued for their ability to assimilate as open-minded citizens. But tolerance of a new virulent strain of Islam which is perversely segregationist and intolerant of our ways.

Having watched what British Muslims think of women, I am relieved my daughters were in bed. I have already written to their schools asking for my children to be exempt from any further trips to the local mosque. I stand against any segregation of my girls from boys.

But Muslim girls are not afforded such liberty, considered to be fortunate to be educated from the back of the room in subjects deemed appropriate for their uses - like cooking and sewing.

Where are the strident feminists fighting for the rights of Muslim girls; their genitals mutilated yet defended as a cultural thing and forced into marriages with ugly uncles?

Unbelievably, one in three British Muslims support the right of a man to have up to four wives. And that's young Muslims as well. 18-24 year olds are utterly backwards in their thinking - defended by progressives and liberals.


Why would women share husbands like a field full of flighty deer, waiting for one mangey rutting stag to mount them with his measly Muslim member?

One Muslim woman describes it as a privilege.

Well I've been there, and it didn't make me feel special.

My first husband - allegedly a Catholic - thought he would try the polygamy thing, informally, with busty women up and down the country. We had a feisty divorce but I kept my children.

If I were a Muslim, British Sharia courts would have taken my children from me by now at the advent of my second marriage, tying my hands and crushing my heart.

Sitting there on my sofa, listening to women say there is no such thing as rape within Muslim marriage, my pelvic floor is in spasm in disgust. 39% of British Muslims - men and women - say a woman should always obey her husband.

Extend this thinking a little further and you end up with a women in utter subservience, hidden from the world, shrouded in a burqa. For many this submission undoubtedly extends to a good beating.

From there it's only a short sandal-footed shuffle into Sharia Law where women's evidence is worth half of that of a man's, and only two in three British Muslims think stoning a woman to death for being raped is wrong.

UK Muslims can be as sexist and violent as they choose.

Imagining this new breed of Muslims want to assimilate into our country is farcical. There is no integration. They do not want to assimilate into our increasingly secular ways.

They want to practice a more radical form of Islam, taught by Wahhabi Imams, living under Sharia law, rejecting homosexuality, promoting the subservience of women, supporting jihad.

Multiculturalists are determined to distance Muslims from Islamic extremism, imagining it to be the acts of the alienated few.

But the reason we so seldom hear Imams and leaders in the Muslim Community speaking out against terrorists is that in truth, many are right behind them.

25% had sympathy for the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris. 20% have sympathy for the 7/7 suicide bombers. Over 100,000 Muslims in the UK have sympathy for terrorist acts. Many support a future attack on the very country which showed them tolerance, allowed them to practice their particular brand of hate, and gave them a home.

I have heard what Muslims really think and it is clear multiculturalism has never existed.

Through no fault of our inclusive culture, it is them and us. And British Muslims expect us to change our ways to fit in with them.

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 23 Aug 2016, 19:48

I see it as my duty to stamp out and destroy stupid bullshit wherever I can find it!
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 24 Aug 2016, 17:40

A 21-year-old British woman has died after she was stabbed during an attack at a backpackers' hostel in Australia.

The victim has been named by friends as Mia Ayliffe-Chung, from Derbyshire.

A 30-year-old British man - named locally as Tom Jackson from Cheshire - was severely injured in the attack in Home Hill, Queensland, and is in a critical condition.

A French suspect, 29, who allegedly said the Arabic phrase "Allahu akbar" during the attack, was arrested.

Police are treating the incident as a murder case, not a terror attack.

They are investigating a number of possible motivations, including drugs misuse, mental health issues and extremism.


They are all looking around and cant see that muslim elephant yet... Or they can and STILL try to separate it from what it does rather than actually face the reality...
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Lord Chatterley » 25 Aug 2016, 18:05

Denmark's second largest political party adopts Muslim ban. Can't imagine why.

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 25 Aug 2016, 21:38

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Dan » 26 Aug 2016, 21:35

This guy, Sam Harris, is a leading intellectual and not a fan of Islam. He gets quite a bit of stick for it.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 26 Aug 2016, 22:08

Thats because anyone that REALLY looks at the facts, and looks at the reality, and looks at what MUSLIMS are actually telling us very clearly cannot come to any other conclusion!

But the west thinks the rest of the world is like them. They think the "truth" is racist (Islam isn't a race), and that everyone is entitled to their "beliefs". Even when those beliefs are killing and torturing thousands, and spreading to the west. The politically correct have been brainwashed to think that all religion is peaceful, and that anyone that isn't is an "extremist"... Or a terrorist. And they now even will never say the word "muslim"...
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 26 Aug 2016, 22:17

Figures which show the race, religion, marital status, work status and educational standards of people in North East Lincolnshire have been revealed today.

Data from the 2011 Census shows how the area was made up on Census day in 2011, including details of all the borough’s 159,616 men, women and children.

It shows that, of the 129,377 people aged over 16, 58,434 are married and 185 are in a registered same-sex civil partnership.

Compared to the national average of 22.7 per cent, 29.5 per cent of residents over the age of 16 have no qualifications. Additionally, only 16.2 per cent have a Level 4 qualification or higher (such as a Certificate/Diploma of Higher Education) compared to the national average of 27.2 per cent.

Fortunately, where I live...
The 2011 Census Data says this:

Health-wise, 44 per cent of residents said their condition was ‘Very Good’ with just 4.7 per cent saying they were in ‘Bad health’ and a further 1.3 per cent in ‘Very Bad health’.

93.7 per cent of North East Lincolnshire residents were born in England and 73.5 per cent identified themselves as being English with a further 10.5 per cent defining themselves as ‘English and British’.

95.4 per cent of the area’s population described their ethnicity as ‘White British’.

At the time of the Census, the area had 19,086 part-time employees, 42,039 full-time employees, 7,484 self-employed people and 7,486 unemployed people. 5,635 people are listed as 'looking after home or family'.

The borough has 5,612 people listed as disabled or long-term sick and 2,506 listed as 'economically inactive: other'.


So 4% NON BRITISH/WHITE. Of that 4% many of those are Chinese who run our takeaways for generations. We need those! And I can go literally days without seeing any non British white faces. Even at the packed beach in summer. There just are no foreigners here to see, no Muslims, no black, very few Indian and those are running our Indian takeaways so they can stay too. And that's how I would like it to stay! Hence Brexit.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Lord Chatterley » 02 Sep 2016, 21:44

Americans are fools...yet not as foolish as us it seems...

http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/08/31/london-is-gone/

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby hobie1dog » 05 Sep 2016, 18:06

This is a very disturbing site, with pictures I will not be able to forget
https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 05 Sep 2016, 19:19

Trust me I know it.

But the media and governments cannot bring themselves to associate Muslims with violence. They call them fundamentalists, terrorists, extremists, but they wont say the word 'Muslim'...

They live in some fairy-tale land where all religious people are loving and cuddly. The Irish Catholics and protestants were not blowing each other up, or drilling kneecaps, they were some kind of terrorists. The israily and Lebanese are fighting over land (the fact that they are opposite religions is ignored as always) And just a few terrorists or extremists or radicalists exist and they are 'wrong' or not true believers. Trouble is they have it EXACTLY back ass wards. Its the ones who DO believe that murder, maim, kill, breed, infiltrate, rape etc. And Muslims are just the latest disease. The problem is ALWAYS religion and ignorance which is the same thing.
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