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Linx any good ?

Postby expresso » 21 Nov 2020, 00:35

Are these any good - better or worse from a Rnet 120A

these are an option or standard now on the new bounders
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby Burgerman » 21 Nov 2020, 02:27

No!
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby expresso » 21 Nov 2020, 02:29

and why is that ?
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby LROBBINS » 21 Nov 2020, 09:34

Because it is not user programmable - web based programming only.
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby Burgerman » 21 Nov 2020, 11:08

Also looks a little like kitchen ware. And a bit plasticky and cheap. Doesent compare to r-net quality wise. And only your "expert" clinician can program it...
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Postby rover220 » 21 Nov 2020, 13:42

LROBBINS wrote:Because it is not user programmable - web based programming only.


It is user programmable with the correct dongle. Oem is very hard to get.

It's not Web based either, app for ios or Windows pc software.
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Postby Burgerman » 21 Nov 2020, 16:04

How does one get it?
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Postby rover220 » 21 Nov 2020, 18:41

Burgerman wrote:How does one get it?


OEM with extreme difficulty. I have a spare dealer level key if anyone could work out a hack.
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Postby Burgerman » 21 Nov 2020, 19:51

Thats beyond me. Also may not be poss. Can you get the OEM software anywhere?

It should be possible to write OEM modded files to the DEALER dongle/system. As per R-Net.
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Postby rover220 » 21 Nov 2020, 19:58

Burgerman wrote:Thats beyond me. Also may not be poss. Can you get the OEM software anywhere?

It should be possible to write OEM modded files to the DEALER dongle/system. As per R-Net.


Software is the same. Access key sets whatever parameters are visible.
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby Burgerman » 21 Nov 2020, 20:01

Ah. Well we are screwed then.
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Postby foghornleghorn » 21 Nov 2020, 21:02

Programmers like to add a layer of something on the top of existing code rather than write a whole brand new system. My feeling with the new dongles is all they have done is replace the wired connection with Bluetooth. Wouldn't surprise me if the way around that turned out to be super simple.
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Postby rover220 » 21 Nov 2020, 21:12

It is a Bluetooth connection for linx.
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Postby foghornleghorn » 21 Nov 2020, 21:31

That's what I was saying. Wouldn't surprise me if the hack to program one of these chairs is to use the old wired connection instead.
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby Fusiongoat » 22 Nov 2020, 05:11

Watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mseJ0zIs1d0
Who cares about any of this?
Than there's this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7aGnzg4ki8
Some algorithm will constantly mess with your motor compensation settings? What could go wrong?
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby expresso » 22 Nov 2020, 05:19

at least theres a Rnet option to choose no extra cost - pick either one -
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby Burgerman » 22 Nov 2020, 11:38

Watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mseJ0zIs1d0
Who cares about any of this?

Not me. Also it looks like a nighmere of hidden screens and stuff. And non of the interesting drive stuff... Gimme my R-net/laptop anyday over that phone garbage. And OEM not dealer dumbed down basic settings.

Than there's this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7aGnzg4ki8
Some algorithm will constantly mess with your motor compensation settings? What could go wrong?

Its not so much what could go wrong. In principle its a good idea.
But I have 3 profiles, and deleted all the rest...
1. EMPTY CHAIR. Has compensation lowered by 15% so its not jerky, and torque set low, and max speed is the MINIMUMS of the other profile so only 1 slow speed.
2. My normal profile. Has compensation set how I like it to feel. And all turn accelerations and decelerations set to 100 like every profile here.
3. My normal profile, but compensation increased because battery is flagging... This is set in profiled motor load compensation.

I want control.
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby Jayde1976 » 26 Nov 2020, 17:17

I have a programmer for Linx its app based and plugs into the back of the port on controller.. but its not as easy as others to use.. got mine off ebay
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby Burgerman » 27 Nov 2020, 22:42

What is needed is in firmware/software somewhere to unlock the OEM version. Such as a leaked key.

Or some software or firmware hack.

And thats beyond my ability.
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby expresso » 15 Dec 2020, 22:06

fuck them - email them back and say sorry - it was lost and thrown away by mistake - its lost for ever in the landfill someone - they can contact the local landfill to have them look for it - :lol:
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby rover220 » 15 Dec 2020, 23:31

I have said the green oem is impossible to get unless you are a manufacturer.
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby Burgerman » 18 Dec 2020, 13:07

Chinese to me!
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby rover220 » 18 Dec 2020, 13:51

certainly looks promising but well above my head :lol:
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby LROBBINS » 18 Dec 2020, 14:45

It's compiled hex code, but before one can use it or modify it you'd have to know (1) what programming language was used, (2) which compiler and linker are used, (3) what computer the system has, and (4) whether an in-service-programmer is available for that computer. Way beyond my knowledge too, but someone out there in the wide world of computer hackers should be able to do it.
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby steves1977uk » 18 Dec 2020, 17:18

There is a 64-bit version linked on the main page... http://www.ollydbg.de/ Ollydbg 64. :thumbup:

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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby Burgerman » 18 Dec 2020, 20:35

I am not a programmer. But if this can be done it will be good. It means that 2 modern systems will be useable. Although they still look a bit cheap so not my prefered setup. It does open up options.

As of today, VR2 and R-Net and other PGDT systems are OEM accessible to us.
And OLDER Dynamic stuff is no problem.

But non of the new LiNX stuff. And while some of the older Curtis Instruments stuff (enable 50, older quantum branded stuff etc is accessible or fully accessible. Non of the new rehab stuff from pride/quantum is. So avoid all of those. And Permobil appears to use R-Net but integrates a lot of their own stuff, so frequently causes problems and some cannot be programmed much or at all as no special permobil OEM software.

Personally I wouldnt touch any chair with a barge pole if I couldnt FIRST get hold of an OEM or better programmer. Its a total dealbreaker to me. Factory, service, or other levels are frequently used on dynamic stuff. And needed for some things.

So for now, R-Net system wins. Its the most flexible, best options, easy to work with and easy to program. And the most commonly used across many brands and models. So that remains my preferred system.
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby Burgerman » 23 Dec 2020, 14:37

We already have those same access levels in the dynamic software we use on the pre linx stuff. The hard bit is getting it to allow it on linx...
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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby Lord Chatterley » 30 Dec 2020, 05:01

Does anyone in the UK have a LiNX access key for the Dynamic?

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Re: Linx any good ?

Postby Burgerman » 30 Dec 2020, 05:52

Invacare UK must have. They just deny it.
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Postby Lord Chatterley » 30 Dec 2020, 06:24

Burgerman wrote:Invacare UK must have. They just deny it.


I'd rather pay a few quid to hire one for a week from someone on this board than pay a powerchair retailer for their geniuses to adjust the settings.

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