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Hot water heater for shower

Postby expresso » 03 Jun 2021, 01:25

has anyone used one of these items or have any idea how they get connected etc,

lately i been having issues with hot water - and it dosnt seem its going to change - so if i can do something myself - these are the only items i can find -

https://www.amazon.com/Boccherini-Elect ... _wish&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0789CC1TN/?c ... _lig_dp_it

i wonder how hard is it to get this going - one of them has a plug to power it from the wall outlet - the other not sure
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby Burgerman » 03 Jun 2021, 02:19

The 1st one needs a 40A supply at 120V so needs heavy cables and its own fuse. And that that you will get 4.8KW. Which is not adequate to heat water even if its as slow as you can pee.

The 2nd one STORES water and heats it slowly. So you will have say 4 gallons of hot water.

Persoally I think both are a waste of time. You will need to get to the bottom of why you dont have hot water.
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby expresso » 03 Jun 2021, 03:52

if it were my own home - i wouldnt have this issue - its a building - and always something - i just had the supper here - because i found my 2nd bedroom is damp on the wall on the floor - so there is a leak in the wall - nothing to do with the hot water issue

tomorrow they will break the wall and see what they find - the hot water issue is a bunch of things - and no one seems to know what its going to take -

all winter it was fine - but lately past few months - - i am told its should resolve itself in July when boiler adjusts itself - dont ask me to explain what that means -

these boilers are all set up a certain way - if all is working as it should - it should be 120 degrees all the time hot water - but its not

so something is wrong - having a building with 225 apts and years of no one seems to know how to control it - or properly keep it working

there are leaks all over the place - hard to find or figure out where its coming from - now in my case - if i didnt notice or my girl didnt notice it - it would stay that way for who knows how long - it may have been that way for years - but noticed it now -

so those items wont work you say ? what would it take then - ? any other item that would work if i had to try one -

i rather have a plug in - instead of wiring and 50A breakers etc, - this is a last case situation - i like to be ready if i have to do this

hope i dont -
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby Burgerman » 03 Jun 2021, 09:27

If you hope to fill a bath or something you will need a huge copper cylinder and an immersion heater.
If you are happy with a couple of gallons then your second link would work.

I have an electric shower. It needs 10.5kw. Its just about enough. As in water thats hot enough for the shower comes through fast enough to actually get wet! I had an 8kw version previously and it was rubbish. But its only for emergencies. My central heating boiler provides hot water in any amount or speed I need.

Seriously your best bet is to call a plumber and get him to fix the damned heating/water system! It cant be so hard can it? I could figure it out, fix all the leaks myself!
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby expresso » 03 Jun 2021, 16:34

your missing something - its not my home - i rent in a building in NYC - i am not the boss - if not enough tenants complain about something

nothing gets done so its only me and another person complaining about the water - i am not looking to fill a bathtub - i dont have a tub

roll in shower - nothing is hard to fix - nothing in the world is hard to fix - its how much effort or money is thrown at it -

and theres no rush for them to throw money at something that no one is complaining about - its a matter of time - something will give -

anyway - those options are the only ones i can find that i think would work - since its warm - adding a 6 gallon water heater - may be enough to make it hot for a shower -

i am just planning ahead if i really have to go down this road -
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby Burgerman » 03 Jun 2021, 16:50

your missing something - its not my home - i rent in a building in NYC - i am not the boss

The one paying is always the boss. Thats you. The price includes hot water.

https://www.landlordstation.com/blog/te ... hot-water/
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby expresso » 03 Jun 2021, 16:54

:thumbup: that's how it should be. In real life it's not. When u own ur own home then ur the boss
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby Burgerman » 03 Jun 2021, 17:16

Get all your tennents signitures, or even a few of them, on a solicitors letter and post it to the landlord. He will not want to go to court.
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby expresso » 03 Jun 2021, 18:01

it wont go to court and yes thats the only way to get things done -


no other tenants are willing to say anything or sign anything or form a tenants association - if we had one - alot would get done - my building is one of the better ones really - but management here leaves alot to be desired - if it gets to a point where nothing is addressed - and its that bad - i get in touch with the top brass and let them know

if that dosnt work - and i feel it still needs attention - then have no choice but to file complaint with the city - housing units in albany etc, HUD - since its federal funded - its private building but they get funding - seniors and disabled are only allowed to live here - so you have 90% seniors who wont speak up - even after talking to a few - asking if they have same issue - they do - but when asked have you told them or let them know ? no they dont want to get involved - so no one complains - nothing gets done

but today it was fine - hot shower -

90% seniors dont say a word - the rest of use are disabled wheelchairs - and they are another bunch of idiots - same thing dont say a word - either i deal with it myself if i can if it continues - or notify the bosses on top to ask and let them know - or last the city - have the inspectors come to check if its true - and i bet when they do - it will be hot like today - and find nothing wrong - so it wont be fixed and now your blacklisted and a problem tenant - you see how little things will affect you in the long run - its a fine line you have to walk and think before acting - not easy to do when your Italian
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby Burgerman » 03 Jun 2021, 18:06

not easy to do when your Italian

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Well its like this. If nobody complains why would they bother to fix it? It likely just needs heater or heat exchanger de-scaling. Not a major job.

This is of course yet another reason to never rent. You are trapped in the middle. You should have bought. Years back. Too late now.
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby expresso » 03 Jun 2021, 18:12

yes i agree - owning if you can is better - your home there - gets you a bottom of the barrel fixer upper - its not that easy to buy in NY - cost is out of this world - Million dollars home are fixer uppers - location is the key - good location - your going to Pay - what you can afford - you dont want to live there -

or move in the woods - i wouldnt mind that these days - less people around - the better
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby Burgerman » 03 Jun 2021, 20:33

Yes.

yes i agree - owning if you can is better - your home there - gets you a bottom of the barrel fixer upper - its not that easy to buy in NY


That DEPENDS on how you do things.
I bought a house when 18 and rented it out. When I was 38 it was paid for, and hadnt cost me one single penny. In fact its purchase price had now increased to almost 3 times as much as I originally paid. Also the rent paid by my tennents paid all of the mortgage, and gave me a small profit for beer for 20 years. So I won twice.
You can sell that later and buy somewhere better and have a very small mortgage. Or live in it. Free. You can do this anywhere.

But if I hadnt done that, I would still choose to live here in a cheap area of the UK, with 4 bedrooms, large living room, huge kitchen space, small workshop, 1 bathrooms, 1 shower room, 1 wetroom, 3 toilets, a utility room for washing machines etc and a ton of parking space, a garage for 2 cars thats carpeted. Because for the same price in the "multicultural" shit-hole of lefties and socialists in what remains of our capital I would get a single bedroom apartment :clap Why would anyone even want to live in that hell hole?

One reason I choose to live here is that its still 95% native white original british people as stated in the last census. Unlike the capital which is almost completely non white and full of muslims and everything else wall to wall. They are great at crime, esp at stabbing, rape, etc and single parents, drugs, and everything you dont want. Esp poverty and making the place look like a rubbish tip. We call it londanistan. You are welcome to it and the communist BLM loving mayor. A pakistani of course. :lol: They get what they deserve.

Yes its got some advantages. Non that I can actually think of though, and so many disadvantages which I dont have space to write!

I have here a town centre, parks, colleges, trains etc all within 3 minutes ride. And enough house room to actually move around. And store tools, chairs, cars, etc. And its mine. No hot water? Fixed next day with a phone call. With whatever it needed, properly, permanantly and future proofed. And no rent! Or mortgage.
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby Toro » 04 Jun 2021, 17:38

That sucks expresso about the hot water system. Have you ever looked at moving out of NY as I'm sure it's extremely expensive? How about head over to NJ? I'm sure that's cheaper.

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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby expresso » 04 Jun 2021, 18:36

its going to get resolved - the top guys have been notified - now -

it was fine today the water that is - the problem is more with who they have running the place here -

moving is not an option - moving from one apt. building to another - dont think will be much better - the city is great for wheelchair users - if it wasnt for the chair - the city is not my first choice to live - couldnt afford it if its not federal funded for sure - no one can - other than the Rich

i have a good apt. top floor - 2 bed rooms - they just did the whole bathroom redone - kitchen been redone years ago - you wont find another place this size - its not easy to move when disabled wheelchair etc, - this building was built for this purpose 30 years ago maybe or 35 - for seniors and disabled

its not easy to find these types - sooner or later - the ball will hit the fan - its started already - if everyone else just made a call to let them know - it would be addressed much sooner - but no one does - so only 2 and now 3 of us doing it - but now it went to the higher ups - so lets say what they do

also it wont be cheaper - i need a federal funded place - i coudlnt afford to pay $4000 a month - no one can - i told my Doctor - hes in NJ - buy a building - get federal funding and give me an apt. - joking - but he can do it and would be worth it --
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby Burgerman » 04 Jun 2021, 20:59

How did it come about that the gov will pay 4k a month? Heavy burden for the taxpayer.
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Postby expresso » 04 Jun 2021, 21:07

who knows that goes back a long way - not all the units are market price at 4K - but in the City Manhattan - yes - some units in my building are 3K - depends on size -

now times that by hundreds of thousands of people in federal funded buildings - my building is private though - not city owned - so its much better nicer area - etc, better kept - if you went to City owned - they dont even have to pay for electric - which i do - but those units are very very rarely kept in shape - alot of issues there -

some people have no choice - its either that or homeless - you could forget wheelchair use - they may have a ramp out front and thats it - no electric doors that open when you approach - no security in the building - housing is a very big problem here - no solutions in site -
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby expresso » 04 Jun 2021, 21:11

they must be printing money for sure - i dont get how it can be either -
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby Burgerman » 04 Jun 2021, 21:28

some people have no choice - its either that or homeless - you could forget wheelchair use - they may have a ramp out front and thats it - no electric doors that open when you approach - no security in the building - housing is a very big problem here - no solutions in site -


In our capital londonistan the costs are similar. But why should the taxpayer pay huge sums for housing in the capital when the rest of the country is quite literally 10x cheaper in a great many places. And less of a shit hole to boot. Plus the homeless at least in this country are only homeless because they choose to be.

Nobody has to be homeless in this country. The gov will find you somewhere suitable, and pay for it. There is a banefit here called housing benefit. It pays rent or mortgage interest if you are not working. You only end up homeless if you spend that on booze, drugs, smokes, iphones, flat screen TVs, game machines, loans, credit cards, etc. So thats their business.
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby expresso » 04 Jun 2021, 21:39

Tax payer - just pays there taxes -


what the Govt. does with all that money - it gets handed out to each dept. like military - etc, you know how it works - same thing there when i was looking for my apt. - i was on waiting lists for years - i was called once - sure they found me a place - projects - not good area - nothing accessible - do you think i was going to take it -

so i waited and waited - till i got where i am now - but i did have a place in the meantime - just was not accessible - i didnt use a wheelchair then - i needed one also - but the housing was the first thing i needed to get - before i got my self in order - its a process - going from working to SSDI and the fun begins to find housing -

home care etc, - i think i spent 5 years easy once i got my apt. to finally have it together - to where i am now - and still never ends - its always something - besides the divorce in the middle of it all - cheers
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby Burgerman » 04 Jun 2021, 21:42

Thats something else that I choose never to do. Marriage, kids, joint bank account :shock: , etc never happening. I am a control freak.
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby expresso » 04 Jun 2021, 22:35

Burgerman wrote:Thats something else that I choose never to do. Marriage, kids, joint bank account :shock: , etc never happening. I am a control freak.



noo really - would have never known :lol:


if you find the right one - it can be a good thing - not really looking to find but if it happens - well it did to me once - and i got married - but now - no - i am fine alone - if i find a FWB - then thats ok cheers
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby Burgerman » 04 Jun 2021, 23:38

finding them is the easy bit. trying to stay in control of everything hurts my OCD...
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby biscuit » 04 Jun 2021, 23:51

Nobody has to be homeless in this country. The gov will find you somewhere suitable, and pay for it. There is a banefit here called housing benefit. It pays rent or mortgage interest if you are not working. You only end up homeless if you spend that on booze, drugs, smokes, iphones, flat screen TVs, game machines, loans, credit cards, etc. So thats their business.

I have my doubts about that. sure there are those benefits, but however eligible you are it is almost impossible to claim them unless you are totally dependent on the benefit system.
An exception is the disability allowance which is only dependent on disability.

i was on waiting lists for years - i was called once - sure they found me a place - projects - not good area - nothing accessible - do you think i was going to take it -

so i waited and waited - till i got where i am now - but i did have a place in the meantime - just was not accessible - i didnt use a wheelchair then - i needed one also - but the housing was the first thing i needed to get - before i got my self in order - its a process - going from working to SSDI and the fun begins to find housing -

home care etc, - i think i spent 5 years
i have a good apt. top floor - 2 bed rooms - they just did the whole bathroom redone - kitchen been redone years ago - you wont find another place this size - its not easy to move when disabled wheelchair etc, - this building was built for this purpose 30 years ago maybe or 35 - for seniors and disabled

stick to where you are, expresso! Paris and London and NY and Boston Lincs. are all the same.
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby expresso » 04 Jun 2021, 23:53

yes i know what you mean - having those issues with workers - the girls - its the same as being married here - but without the bedroom

you need to find someone who has OCD like you also - then you can both go crazy together :clap
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Re: Hot water heater for shower

Postby Burgerman » 04 Jun 2021, 23:58

That might work!
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