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corn, maize and wheat.

Postby Burgerman » 29 Sep 2021, 13:01

What the hell is the difference?
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Re: corn, maize and wheat.

Postby LROBBINS » 29 Sep 2021, 15:29

Depends where you are. U.S. corn = British maize, scientific name Zea mays subsp. mays. Wheat (genus Triticum) has a variety of species Wikepedia lists 24 of them. Common wheat is Tritcum aestivum, others include Triticum durum (hard wheat great for pasta) and then for each species there are several varieties or sub-species.
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Postby Burgerman » 29 Sep 2021, 16:56

So the answer is, like most things, not so simple then! :lol:
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Postby snaker » 30 Sep 2021, 10:23

Corn vs Maize, which word is more popular in the rest of the world (outside US and UK)?
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Postby Burgerman » 30 Sep 2021, 10:31

Corn here in UK.
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Postby biscuit » 30 Sep 2021, 10:40

Corn here in UK

I am amazed by that information! I think that's a fairly recent development, following mass media.
Corn is maize in the US. Maize is maize in South Africa.
Wheat is wheat, you make bread from it.
You can make bread from other things like rye or spelt, which is a kind of wheat.
And there are other grains such as sorghum, barley and quinoa.
Those are my examples that spring to mind, mostly as a result of shopping around and researching my food.
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Postby LROBBINS » 30 Sep 2021, 11:45

The Cambridge English Dictionary must be staffed by socialists given that they disagree with Burgerman:
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Postby Burgerman » 30 Sep 2021, 14:33

How can anything disagree with me? I dont have an opinion. I do not know. I am not a farmer. I thought we were surrounded by corn fields. But not a clue personally what is what. Thats why I asked. About 5 feet tall, looks straw coloured. As far as the eye can see as you drive around. Pub across the road is called the wheat sheaf which is a good clue! But you can have a sheaf of corn too whatever that is.
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Postby LROBBINS » 30 Sep 2021, 14:53

A sheaf of corn is a sheaf of wheat or of spelt or of durum or oats, but not of maize which grows on cobs and can't be collected in sheaves. The word corn was used in Great Britain for all grains, an example being the corn laws, long before U.S. corn = maize was brought over from the new world. That American English is corrupting British English is not a surprise, nor really to be regretted, but it may make older British texts rather incomprehensible in the future. Oh well, Old English is utterly incomprehensible to modern English speakers and Middle English is nearly so.
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Postby biscuit » 30 Sep 2021, 15:25

I thought we were surrounded by corn fields.

I think we grow lots of maize here in England as animal feed, so you identified it. Then there's sweetcorn and popping corn, which are probably more the sorts we see in the shops.
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Postby Burgerman » 30 Sep 2021, 15:38

So what are my corn flakes made of without trying to state the obvious!

Says corn. But thats the yellow things on a kob? czy https://www.kelloggs.co.uk/en_GB/brands ... akes-.html
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Postby biscuit » 30 Sep 2021, 16:02

yup that's it, they are made of chicken food I'm afraid. :lol:
The US has lots of maize, HFCS is high fructose corn syrup from maize... many cultivars and genetic modifications there.
Maybe one day we'll refine all carbs including starch into vehicle fuel instead of animal feed.
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Postby Burgerman » 30 Sep 2021, 16:08

Why? We have crap loads of oil.
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Postby biscuit » 30 Sep 2021, 16:17

Perhaps governments will read a book on economics where it points out the connection between the price and the supply of goods, instead of everyone pointing fingers and moralising about "gouging" when prices rise. And then clever people might find it worthwhile to try.
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Postby Burgerman » 30 Sep 2021, 17:04

The place and time for alternative fuels and electric cars etc is where and when it economically beneficial and not before.
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Postby snaker » 01 Oct 2021, 02:59

So in UK, corn means grain and maize is a kind of corn.

It's funny that many British (like BM) have not seen corncobs and cannot distinguish maize vs wheat while all 3 years old kids here can :lol:
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Postby Burgerman » 01 Oct 2021, 05:03

I dont do farming. :fencing

Food comes from shops, in packs, boxes. Or gets delivered.
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Postby Bubbernator » 01 Oct 2021, 07:28

Food comes out of the ground or eats things that come out of the ground.
In the U.S. less that 1% of the population feed the other 99%. The average age of the American farmer is over 60. Young people don't seem to be interested in hard work.
Agriculture is not a job you can do remotely.
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Postby biscuit » 01 Oct 2021, 07:51

Everything here has been planned and laid out as an industrial country for hundreds of years, so you'd really not go past any crop land often, unless you were farming. And if you are an observant traveller and do notice crops, nobody would be there telling you what you are seeing.

And the schools (except maybe the privately funded ones) don't teach it to the children, as there is no discernable purpose in general knowledge. You would probably be able to work even on a farm without knowing, so the schools would have fulfilled their mission.
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Postby Bubbernator » 01 Oct 2021, 08:53

I grew up in the New York City metropolitan area and always assumed that the food simply appeared at the market like it was supposed to.
Then I moved into a very rural agricultural community about ten years ago. I can now identify soy beans, cotton, corn, tobacco (not much of that anymore), winter wheat and sweet potatoes in the field. All of my in-laws hunt and fish. They also plant gardens every year. So I admit that this city boy has become somewhat countrified. I can personally vouch for the absolute superiority of fresh eggs from the hen house over those poor anemic things they sell at the grocery store.
It's also made it easy to adhere to social distancing directives. The closest neighbor is 1/4 mile away and it's a ten mile drive to town. It's a very different world.
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Re: corn, maize and wheat.

Postby snaker » 02 Oct 2021, 03:40

A challenge for city boys: what is the name of this funny nut?

In VN "city boys" are called "industrial chicken" :lol:

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Re: corn, maize and wheat.

Postby LROBBINS » 02 Oct 2021, 08:21

In American English - CASHEW. In Italian - ANACARDI. In my mouth YUMM.
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Postby Burgerman » 02 Oct 2021, 09:05

In proper English - CASHEW. Those too come in sealed bags or tins. Not from trees or farms...

Raw, roasted, salted, chocolate coated, honey roast, chilli, and many other flavours. Like piri piri:
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Postby snaker » 02 Oct 2021, 09:24

It's correct. BM passed the test. Congratulation, you are not a 'industrial chicken' :thumbup:

VN is the largest exporter of cashew but many Vietnamese would not be able to recognize this nut. Because these trees only grow in the South. Most cashew production is reserved for exporting to rich countries. People in the Central or the North rarely to see them even in a bag.
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Postby Burgerman » 02 Oct 2021, 09:44

Shame.They are the best! Why?
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