windows 11. 3 weeks as daily driver.

[expresso]

i wanted a new computer either way

i like my system - it compact -got tired of the old large case - yes it worked - i wanted something new - i am happy with my setup - video card or no video card - i could have waited also for DDR 5 - then the cost comes into play -

i am good for another decade maybe - or less if i get the itch again - i like my little case - clean looking compact - first time Mini itx - i like it - i dont need it full of stuff -

intel is back in the game - finally thanks to AMD -

now we see what AMD does next - you know the drill how it works - AMD has to keep the pressure and keep getting better - we see what they come back with - i am fine now for some time -

i could have waited also for the newer DDR 5 memory and newer AMD chips etc, but not worth it for me to wait and pay more for what i have now is fine and overkill already for me - since i dont play games - if that changes - then i see

i just wanted something newer and nicer than what i had before

i was on 3rd Gen intel - long time ago - not even sure it was Win 7 ready - thats how old - it was

i am getting tired of my laptop also - haha - maybe upgrade that one day sooner then later - if its still working fine - i can keep it as a spare backup - or hand it down - life goes on - we dont live for ever -

[steves1977uk]

Actually the 3rd gen Core processors launched in 2012, so Windows 8 era. I've got a 11th gen build I'm doing soon and will be doing a 12th gen next year if prices are near MSRP level. Damn scalpers!

Steve

[expresso]

thats about a decade ago - someone else is using it now -

i done new ones before then also - just get the itch for something new - by the time i do another one - who knows what we will have - DDR 7 or 32 cores as the low end models - every year

and if AMD keeps the pressure - can only be good for both sides

[expresso]

why do 11 gen and then 12 gen - just wait for next gen and do a super duper one

[Burgerman]

9 was ok. 10 was slightly more of the same. 11 was a 10 that wasnt faster. Just marketing and £££.. 12 is a new architecture with performance cores, thiner die, and economy cores. It is 8 core fast 5.3ghz, and 8 core non hyperthreaded eco cores, and 24 threads... And it out performe everything that went before from all manufacturers. Its a big jump. Its 20% faster at everything compared to AMDs best CPU, for 250 DOLLARS less money...

I can buy the top of range 12900k for £535 and its just been released so prices are falling quite fast over time. And I can buy a slower AMD top of range 5950X for 700+ so a no brainer right now.

All may change in the new year as BOTH have newer CPUs coming out! Intel just invested 20 billion to get back ahead after years doing little.

[expresso]

right all thanks to AMD - or else Intel would have done nothing

[Burgerman]

Competion, free market capitalism. Alway provides better products and forces price down. At least when there are not huge shortages of boards, graphics cards etc.

[steves1977uk]

why do 11 gen and then 12 gen - just wait for next gen and do a super duper one

I got the 11th gen parts cheaper, under £1000 for the CPU, MB and PSU. I wanted a 3090 but refuse to pay £1800+ for one.

Steve

[Burgerman]

Patience!

Maybe june 22. By then we may see some stock and more sensible prices. And be able to say till then.

Also, by next year maybe feb/march all the motherboard Z690 chipset boards, and the even better CPUs from AMD and Intel will be out. And DDR5 memory available or without silly pricing. Right now everything looks very promising for next year. Right now not so much. And with windows 11 and early adopter new chipsets/CPUs still to be a bit of a problem it makes sense to wait. But I have no sense. I am trying to be paient!

P.S. The 3080TI is cheaper, smaller, less power hungry, and is within 3% of the 3090 esp on 4k stuff which is the entire point of getting one... So a better bet.

[DonStyles]

I have Windows 11 won't have these ugly updates as Win10 currently has...

[Burgerman]

A bot?

[steves1977uk]

I have Windows 11 won't have these ugly updates as Win10 currently has...

You do realise Windows 11 is just a reskin of Windows 10? 99.9% base code is the same, and from 21H2 Windows 10 will get one feature update annually for the next four years. LTSC doesn't have this yearly upgrade cycle so is better for wanting a stable system.

Maybe it is a bot BM? Not sure though.

Steve

[Burgerman]

From my experience and a lot of careful looking, the ONLY difference other than that we all know about is the new (awful) interface, and even more forcing of users to use edge etc.

So the 21H2 upgraded LTSC version is by far the best windows version right now. And will be till IOT version reaches 2031 end of service, and beyond if im still alive. Its just way better in so many ways. I have 11 installed too. Spend weeks trying to kick it into a usable shape. And am still arguing with it. Its horrible.

[DonStyles]

I have Windows 11 won't have these ugly updates as Win10 currently has...

You do realise Windows 11 is just a reskin of Windows 10? 99.9% base code is the same, and from 21H2 Windows 10 will get one feature update annually for the next four years. LTSC doesn't have this yearly upgrade cycle so is better for wanting a stable system.

Thanks, I didn't know that.

P.S. Not a bot, just typed a wrong word.

[Burgerman]

LTSC has non of the unwanted metro ap junk, or "feature" updates. So no phoning home etc. And just a simple windows 7 style operating system. Still needs a little configuration firefox installing as a browser, and so on.

As used by air trafic controllers, banks, etc. Its the one we all really need/want and the one microsoft hate us to have as it doesent earn them money by aiming to sell you stuff or track you for ads, or send you to microsoft services. Etc. I cannot use normal windows 10 or 11 any more as it winds me up. LTSC is the only option.

And its free naturally... If you know how.

[LROBBINS]

Dear Friends,

I've finally gotten around to updating Rachi's computer from LTSC 2019 to LTSC 2021. The install went smoothly and I think I've gotten rid of most all the "fluff" that's useless for Rachi or could potentially cause problems for her programs. There is one thing I've not done yet and for which I ask your guidance.

The method I used in the past to disable Windows Defender no longer works. Several posts here have suggested other ways to do this, but I don't know which of these serves our purposes best. I want to be able to disable Defender without its resurrection at each reboot or when I install a security update (I only do this after making an up-to-date image just in case, and I block feature updates). However, I would like to be able to turn it back on once in a while without having to go through extended machinations. What do y'all suggest is the best way to do this?

[Burgerman]

I still do this. Bottom 2... Simple click to change.

And take ownership is still useful too. And theres tweak etc.

[LROBBINS]

flipping the registry entries back and forth seems simple enough

[Burgerman]

I did a lot of other stuff too.

GPE and registry. Takes me around a year to fine tune windows and it never ends. So not sure that the simple reg fix is all thats required. But it should be.

[Burgerman]

And many like this...


I am a control freak.

[LROBBINS]

I too have made a lot of changes in settings, group policy etc. - mostly following this old thread:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220126052211/http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10-clean-installation-guide.781178/though that's rather out of date so one has to look around a bit to find where MS moved things. I also regularly check using OOSU10 to see when MS changes things back to what they want rather than what I want. I have a file that I can import into OOSU10 so can get things back to where I want them without going through the whole list, and another for allowing updates once in a while.