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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby martin007 » 24 May 2022, 18:35

Rufus accepts .iso files, but does not recognize single folders.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby Burgerman » 24 May 2022, 18:40

You dont need rufus. It formats he disk, and sets it active then extracts the files from the ISO. Which you already have. You are making a complex job from something simple.


Format mem stick as fat 32.
Then in windows management/disk management set to ACTIVE. Then just copy the files to it. Done!!!
Whole process takes a few seconds.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby Burgerman » 24 May 2022, 18:53

Set to ACTIVE after formatting to FAT32.
Then just copy the files from my zip to your disk. Its really that simple!
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby martin007 » 24 May 2022, 18:56

I'll try later.
Thanks.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby martin007 » 24 May 2022, 22:14

Look!
The option doesn't appear...
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby Burgerman » 24 May 2022, 22:26

It does inside DISK MANAGEMENT.

Click Start -> Run -> type compmgmt. msc -> click OK. Alternatively, right-click on the My Computer icon and select 'Manage'. In the console tree, click Disk Management.

Martin, it isnt just you. It seems that the vast majority of PC users have no idea how to actually use them. No wonder garbage like apple or phones are popular.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby martin007 » 24 May 2022, 22:43

In theory it is.
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Now I just have to drop the strelec folders there?
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby Burgerman » 24 May 2022, 23:04

If F:\ is your USB drive, then yes.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby martin007 » 24 May 2022, 23:06

Yes!
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby martin007 » 24 May 2022, 23:21

The LiveUSB don´t run banghead banghead banghead banghead banghead
Do you have the Strelec .iso image?
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby Burgerman » 24 May 2022, 23:47

No. I remove the files and delete the ISO. As its not required. You did something wrong.
Maybe you need UFEI bios to boot from a normal fat32 memory stick.
Go into your PC BIOS and set that as a UFEI BOOT DEVICE. SET IT AS THE TARGET TO BOOT FROM.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby martin007 » 24 May 2022, 23:49

I did that already.
F11 > Boot menu > LiveUSB
Screen goes black trying to boot.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby Burgerman » 24 May 2022, 23:55

What you just did works perfectly on any modern computer. All of those use UEFI bios. In that bios you dont set it to boot from the USB you see the actual disk, and its name etc.

As for what old computers did then things get a bit more problematic. Its what we call legacy mode. That works differently and many different methods of getting something to boot from a USB applies, with lots of different bios setting options. Some work, some dont, some want to see it as a CD instead of a drive, and so on. So I am lost. Cant you set the whole machine to UFEI?
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby martin007 » 24 May 2022, 23:58

Cant you set the whole machine to UEFI?

It's a Bios from 2005.
Do you mean to save the option to boot by default from the LiveUSB?
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby Burgerman » 25 May 2022, 00:01

Add these 2 files to your memory stick. It might then work on old legacy pre UEFI machines
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby martin007 » 25 May 2022, 00:04

I'm going to bed...
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby steves1977uk » 25 May 2022, 00:12

Old BIOSes can be a PITA to get booting from an USB flash drive. The way round it was to boot PLoP boot manager from a floppy which had USB support built in, then select the USB flash drive and it booted.

You really need to get a more modern PC Martin, it'll make life a lot easier and it'll boot from USB drives easier.

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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby Burgerman » 25 May 2022, 01:00

The two files I posted above will make it work.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby martin007 » 25 May 2022, 18:03

steves1977uk wrote:Old BIOSes can be a PITA to get booting from an USB flash drive. The way round it was to boot PLoP boot manager from a floppy which had USB support built in, then select the USB flash drive and it booted.

You really need to get a more modern PC Martin, it'll make life a lot easier and it'll boot from USB drives easier.

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I regularly use LiveUSB Linux and the BIOS is not the problem.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby Burgerman » 25 May 2022, 19:15

Did you add the two files? That will make it boot your way with old bios.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby martin007 » 25 May 2022, 19:21

I did it.
The problem persists.
I don't know what's wrong, or what I'm doing wrong.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby Burgerman » 25 May 2022, 19:40

Me either! I use that system all the time and on my families computers, my own, my ex gf, my next door neibour borrowed it and no problem with any of them.

Your machine really is too old. And your bios IS a problem in spite of what you think because its not designed to natively boot from a USB stick. With a modern system any old copy of windows, strelec, etc just works as if its an internal drive. Your bios needs to think its a cd or something and even then you must have all config correct. It wont run windows from a memory stick for e.g.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby steves1977uk » 25 May 2022, 19:58

martin007 wrote:I regularly use LiveUSB Linux and the BIOS is not the problem.


The only reason those work is because they use legacy boot managers like grub. So if you want to run newer OS's then an UEFI BIOS is needed I'm afraid. Hell even my old Dell Inspiron 1545's can boot Sergie Strelec from USB without issue.

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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby martin007 » 25 May 2022, 23:47

steves1977uk wrote:
martin007 wrote:I regularly use LiveUSB Linux and the BIOS is not the problem.


The only reason those work is because they use legacy boot managers like grub. So if you want to run newer OS's then an UEFI BIOS is needed I'm afraid. Hell even my old Dell Inspiron 1545's can boot Sergie Strelec from USB without issue.

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I'm used to using .iso images.

I'm going to show you that you are wrong.
The problem was not having the .iso image.
The computer works perfectly.
He may be little powerful, but it works.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby Burgerman » 26 May 2022, 01:51

Take a look at the actual files on your memory stick. You will see they are exactly the same as the ones I sent you... And your ISO is not on there!
Rufus REMOVED THEM and put them onto a FAT 32 active bootable memory stick for you. In the same way that you could have done with the files I sent...




UNLESS you are tricking your bios into reading the ISO as a CD or some other workaround. Thats a bios incompatibility fix.

Your mem stick just has these files and folders:
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby steves1977uk » 26 May 2022, 11:02

Rufus also has a BIOS compatibility fix, it can add a small partition for older BIOSes to boot. I see Martin had to set the BIOS ID to 0x80 which makes it think it's a HDD, so it's still a BIOS issue which no longer exists on newer PC's. Glad you got it to work though Martin! :thumbup:

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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby martin007 » 26 May 2022, 19:36

Burgerman wrote:Take a look at the actual files on your memory stick. You will see they are exactly the same as the ones I sent you... And your ISO is not on there!
Rufus REMOVED THEM and put them onto a FAT 32 active bootable memory stick for you. In the same way that you could have done with the files I sent...




UNLESS you are tricking your bios into reading the ISO as a CD or some other workaround. Thats a bios incompatibility fix.

Your mem stick just has these files and folders:



Look!
There are some differences.
And the formatting done by Rufus is NTFS instead of Fat32.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby Burgerman » 26 May 2022, 20:48

Its not running as a hard disk from the bios its tricking the bios to see it as a cd. You wont need to worry about all that nonsense when you get a newer computer.
Theres NO ISO file. The extra bits were put there by the rufus program to make it work with your legacy computer.

You didnt need the ISO.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby martin007 » 26 May 2022, 20:57

"Autorum"

I understand.
What is the function of the "rescue" folder?
Rufus didn't use it.
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Re: Sergei Strelec

Postby Burgerman » 26 May 2022, 20:58

HERES where you went wrong. For future reference.
You needed to create a bootable disk WITHOUT CONTENT by setting it up like this below.
THEN copy the files I sent you and the folders to the newly created disk. No ISO needed.
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