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Electric generator

Postby Puma » 05 Jun 2022, 18:40

Due to the potential of a power cut and my need for my electric mattress and power chair can anybody recommend a reliable one for a three bedroomed bungalow.
Thanks in advance I know some of you use them
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Re: Electric generator

Postby martin007 » 05 Jun 2022, 21:49

Are you afraid of a prolonged cut of electricity?
I see an event that is unlikely.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby Burgerman » 05 Jun 2022, 23:12

Theres many. And prices from a few hundred to many thousands. Depending on many things. Not least portable, short term pull start to fully automated full house high output silent auto start and auto "kick in" that live in our garage etc. And everything in between. Not least, how long you want it to run for.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby Puma » 06 Jun 2022, 09:15

Have you guys not got anything set up? I know my energy firm will bail me out if it is going to be a long time because I am registered as a vulnerable person! I just wanted your opinions on this potential problem?
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Re: Electric generator

Postby Burgerman » 06 Jun 2022, 11:52

What you need is flexibility.
For power I have:
5 wheelchairs. All charged and with anderson connectors. So enough power to run my house on an inverter (I have 3).
Solar, charging a stack of old wheelchair batteries, and connected with grid tie inverters. Again all connected with anderson connectors. So the solar can be used to run a normal ac inverter, or power my electric bed, or a PL8 to charge anything.
My van, has an AC inverter, and a 150A alternator. So if I need power I can let it idle, and its 12V or its AC 240V are available with an extension cable.
And I have a couple of generators. A small 1kw one thats pretty silent. And a 3.3KW one in the garage.
Again all have 12V or 24V DC out too, via andersons...
So iI can run the house and or charge everything, or do it the opposite way around with chairs powering the house...

Again, flexibility is key.
I need heat (gas but also requires 240VAC power to run).
Electric bed, needs either 12V DC or 240V AC.
Chair charging, needs 12VDC or 24DC or 240VAC
Lights, fridge, etc

I can do all of this from my van. From my solar battery, from my generator(s), or from the energy already stored in 5 chairs. And in a multitude of different ways.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby martin007 » 06 Jun 2022, 18:11

Puma wrote:Have you guys not got anything set up? I know my energy firm will bail me out if it is going to be a long time because I am registered as a vulnerable person! I just wanted your opinions on this potential problem?



Power companies have no soul...
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Re: Electric generator

Postby Burgerman » 06 Jun 2022, 18:25

A company exists to make a product or service for profit. Thats good, because they have to compete for your cash based on competition, quality, service, price. Nationalised power companies dont have to compete.

Theres no such thing as a soul.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby martin007 » 06 Jun 2022, 18:47

I meant that the electric companies do not take into account if you are disabled or valid.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby Burgerman » 06 Jun 2022, 19:09

Why would or should they?

If I run a business selling widgets why do I care if the buyer is disabled, green, midget, or anything else? Its job is to make profit in exchange for goods or services.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby martin007 » 06 Jun 2022, 19:11

Puma wrote:I know my energy firm will bail me out if it is going to be a long time because I am registered as a vulnerable person!
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Re: Electric generator

Postby Burgerman » 06 Jun 2022, 19:14

Thats always the aim of socialist policies. And the same socialism always makes everything worse. In this case it costs every user more £££$$$ and so decreases living standards overall. Meaning you cant afford a generator... Its why socialism always fails. It ends up doing the exact opposite of what it attempts to "fix". The more of it you have the greater the problem. And in the end the money in society is no longer available to have any welfare help. Or food on shelves that anyone can afford.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby Gnomatic » 06 Jun 2022, 22:53

Puma wrote:Have you guys not got anything set up? I know my energy firm will bail me out if it is going to be a long time because I am registered as a vulnerable person! I just wanted your opinions on this potential problem?


My place is two bedroom, two bathroom with a small "two" car garage. In reality its more like a one car garage with room for stuff, but I digress.

About 14rs ago, we had a MAJOR power outage in the city I'm near. Power wasn't fully restored for weeks. The outage in my area wasn't quite as bad as some others, but it still SUCKED big time. Luckily I got my hands on a small 2000 watt Honda portable generator. It was the only thing that kept me having to find a different place for awhile. It kept my chair charged, medical air mattress running, fridge and freezer cold, etc. I had friends and family running around keeping the generator topped up in fuel, plugging in different things at different times, etc. Afterward I made a decision that I'd do everything I could to avoid being in that situation again.

I had a Standby Generator installed, sits right by AC unit on an outside wall right where my gas line comes in. It's 14kW rated I believe, air cooled, and runs off my nat gas line. It's wired straight into my breaker panel and can power my whole place, although I try to avoid running things like my dryer and AC at the same time if I can help it. That's not a problem.

I consider it one of the best investments I've ever made. I've since been through several multi day power outages with hardly any inconvenience. Well the gas bill goes up for a bit, but I happily pay it.

If I could have afforded it, I'd have gotten a liquid cooled standby generator, as they offer more power(not that I really need more), and are quiet and last longer. But those are a lot more expensive.

Regardless, even if you can only afford a solid little portable generator. That's just fine. You'll be very happy when the time comes.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby steves1977uk » 07 Jun 2022, 10:56

Power cuts don't happen very often here in the UK since the 2000's. In the 1980's they used to be a regular occurrence. Nowadays I have my chairs to provide backup power if needed, plus my van.

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Re: Electric generator

Postby greybeard » 07 Jun 2022, 13:36

steves1977uk wrote:Power cuts don't happen very often here in the UK since the 2000's. In the 1980's they used to be a regular occurrence. Nowadays I have my chairs to provide backup power if needed, plus my van.

Steve

Somewhere recently I read that some areas of UK might experience electricity rationing next winter. Better to be prepared in case it is true.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby Burgerman » 07 Jun 2022, 14:03

Thats because, boris. And ever since blair.

We live on an island surrounded by oil, gas, good for at least 100 years of cheap easy to access fuels. Unlike the EU countries we have an abundance of energy. And we have another 50 to 70 years worth of coal to run power stations. As well as 200 years worth of unused shale gas...

So why the oil, fuel, gas, and electricity price and acessibility problems? And why power cuts in winter?

Because for 30 years our governments have been brainwashed into this fossil fuel destroys the planet bollox. And refusing to allow permits to even map out fresh oil and gas feilds around our coasts. And allowing most of the existing ones to run dry and shut up shop. Including the ones near me. To be replaced with 400 BILLION worth of totally hopeless windmlls. Why is that an issue? Well up to 66 percent of our electricity is generated by burning north sea GAS. Or it was. Now most of the gas has to be bought from the rest of the world, in massive cryo tankers in a just in time manner as we cant store it.

Boris also went on TV and was filmed showing how marvelous he was by destroying (blowing up) yet another coal station, and stressing that we had gone a full day without burning any coal. Which was cheap energy. Now the coal mines are all abandoned and flooded. Another waste of cheap energy that britain was built on. We now buy that across the world at stupid prices for industry.
Today borises 400 billion pounds, 20 year plan, are doing better than yesterday at 2.2% of our electrical needs. So that is a completely useless waste of money.

He still wont allow licences for oil or gas from the north seal Still will not use or coal. Or allow our shale gas to be used.

And the saving grace was nuclear. But the green lobby (boris??) dont like those either. So out of our 29 nuclear power stations only 13 remain active. All are at end of life, to be closed before 2030. So that means another 18% of our generation woll be lost.

Boris thinks more windmills is he answer. Which means if he spent 400 BILLION all over again then we would be making 4.4% of the power we need! And that will take another 20 years.

Worse, he wants us to use HYDROGEN! Guess how thats made. You got it, electricity. So thats a great idea! And he wants electric cars, trucks, shipping, and houshold heating. Which will increase the demand on electrical generation by over 5 fold. And he is already expecting power cuts over winter. And blaming everything except his own stupidity.


LIVE data. https://gridwatch.templar.co.uk/ Sometimes wind gets up to 25% of our needs. But some weeks its below 2% all week long! So ultimately useless.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby greybeard » 07 Jun 2022, 14:14

< But the green lobby (boris??) >

More likely Mrs Boris, whispering her green poison into his ear while he sleeps!
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Re: Electric generator

Postby Puma » 07 Jun 2022, 19:49

Great replies! Thanks, I will invest in one!
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Re: Electric generator

Postby Burgerman » 07 Jun 2022, 21:37

Boris also failed to do brexit. SEVN YEARS after the vote.
We are still in the court of human rights. Which is why we cant just return the gimmegrants to france. Talking of which under borises watch that has increased 5 times over the 7 year ago brexit vote.
We still hand all our fish to the french.
We have northern ireland in the single market and a border doen the irish sea.
We have so called "equivelence" which means we have still got to copy all the EU regulations too.
We have the 40 billion to pay the EU (for what?) along wih another 10 billion still "owed"...
When trump wanted to do a US trade deal boris waited...
Meanwhile he has been paying people to sit at home for 2 years and printing and borrowing money like a extreme corbinista.
And now the green nonsense has basically bankrupted a third or the population.
And now he wants to waste another 400 billion on the same windmills that are contributing 2.5% of our electricity, paid for by massive taxes on the fuel for homes and cars that we cant afford any more.
He has to go!

I voted for brexit and conservative, not the socialist or green remain party.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby martin007 » 07 Jun 2022, 22:21

In the 1980s, after every storm there was a blackout.
For more than 20 years, blackouts have been extremely rare in Spain.
There may be one that lasts a few hours.
Blackouts are a thing of third world countries.

The potential power generator in Spain is immense.
In Castilla and León there are many prey.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldead%C3%A1vila_Dam

You only have to encourage production.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby Burgerman » 07 Jun 2022, 22:51

But power cuts are normally not to do with production. Its because someone digs up a powerline with a JCB or a transformer fails, or a powerline down. In the UK power cuts are maybe 10 seconds to an hour at worst once a year or maybe three years.

But Boris is so stupid that he is causing them because of the green nonsense. We as a country are in the enviable position of being stood on top of, and surrounded by gas, oil, coal. And are refusing to use it! Or nuclear... Its completely self induced green socialism and self destruction.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby martin007 » 07 Jun 2022, 22:57

Burgerman wrote:Its completely self induced green socialism and self destruction.


We'll see how long people last.
Near where I live several factories are stopped.
Renault is half stopped.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Espa%C3%B1a

Siro stops paying payroll.

https://diariodecastillayleon.elmundo.e ... 49124.html
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Re: Electric generator

Postby Burgerman » 07 Jun 2022, 23:53

You got socialism and green nonsense because you voted for it.

We got the same from a CONSERVATIVE FREE MARKET party. So boris is a bit unpopular right now. He will be out.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby martin007 » 08 Jun 2022, 14:42

Burgerman wrote:You got socialism and green nonsense because you voted for it.

We got the same from a CONSERVATIVE FREE MARKET party. So boris is a bit unpopular right now. He will be out.



I have not voted for anything.
I don't even bother to vote.
I don't waste my time...
In Spain sheep are the majority.
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Re: Electric generator

Postby Burgerman » 08 Jun 2022, 22:21

You must. Thats how the socialist idiots got to govern this counry.
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