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The Boris issue?

Postby F3Head » 07 Jul 2022, 19:02

Hello All, now that Boris Johnson has resigned, what's up next for Britain? My prediction is that Tory conservatives will sign you all back up for a big dose of the EU. Boris was a major disappointment with the whole climate change mumbo-jumbo he signed you up for and was always a big EU supporter despite his denials….for what it's worth, Tories are even worse than spineless US Republicans if that can be believed… must put back into place the New World Order. Best wishes from Klaus Schwab... The Great Reset has began…

Good luck,F3HEAD
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Re: The Boris issue?

Postby Burgerman » 08 Jul 2022, 04:03

Boris didnt do brexit. He just did mays surrender deal. So the important bits are not done. She was a remainer, an establishment placement that did all she could to deny a real brexit and wasted 4 years of our time dragging it out trying to do some "deal" we never voted for in order to claim we were out. But in fact were still in. Called BRINO. Brexit In Name Only.

Boris entered the picture, as another islington wanna be left thinking liberal/green that did not really want brexit either, just the prime ministers job. A career politiion. He took the brexit "position" as he wanted to be prime minister. He "said" he did brexit, and just used mays terrible surrender deal. The reality is that he didnt do what we voted for in any way!
He just "talked" a good game.

What do I mean?
We voted LEAVE. That meant out of the EU in every way. That meant the EU had no hold on us. We voted to:
1. Control imigration.Priority one. The reality is that this has now INCREASED 300% since we voted leave 6.5 years ago. Why? ECJ wont let us return them. We now have 80,000 plus sitting in fancy hotels that were block booked and commandeered to take all these immigrants. So on the most important thing he has failed completely.

2. We voted to LEAVE the EU that included the ECJ courts, the human rights courts, etc and they are still controlling us. In lots of ways. He also agreed to comply with "equivelence" in trade and goods and business practices. That means we have to copy all EU rules... And that includes the net zero nonsense. Part of this was to no longer persue our own oil, gas, and coal which is beneath our feet and surounding us in british waters. So now we are buying this on a rediculously expensive world market (up to 5x the cost) instead of using our own for practically free, and supplying the EU with the gas, oil and coal that they are all now desperate for. This could have helped our industry, and our cost of living enormously. And borises net zero agenda is a sad and 450 billion pound joke. That nobody voted for.

3. one of the other main things that we voted for in brexit was to take back control of our waters, and fishing industry as the EU, mainly france and holland were taking the vast majority of our fish, putting towns like my town out of business with way too small fishing quotas. We OWN these waters. They are telling us how many fish we can have. Whilst drastically overfishing them themselves. Once we were the largest fishing port in the world, now Grimsby has NO trawlers etc. Its fishing fleet and income is all but non existent. Boris told the french they could just carry on! And now has even more huge factory ships and other fishing vessels than before. So again boris FAILED.

4. We also voted to take control of our laws. But our courts are still overuled. And we have adopted many EU regulations and cannot change thee because boris ageed to them.

5. Boris could have made the UK into an irish style tax haven, and one of the things we were told we wouldd be able to do once out of the EU. That brings in huge corporate business and makes us all richer. Boris signed up to a global agreement to never drop below the 16% level of corporation tax for e.g. Because he is an idiot.

6. Boris is supposed to be a conservative. But instead of freedom, free markets, low taxation, etc, he turned socialist! Has increased taxes on many thinks, inc income, fuel, subsidising his green nonsense, and tries to spend more and more money micromanaging and subsidising everything like a true socialist. Not to mention paying people to sit at home for 2 years and producing nothing.

7. Boris has put a border in the irish sea. So to get from one part of the UK to the other you have customs, and restrictions on goods and so on. That he swore he wouldnt do. Northern ireland is still effectively in the single market and subject to all the EU rules. Again, FAILED.

So we voted brexit/conservative.
We got a socialist green reluctant brexiteer, that tries to please everyone and that pleased nobody. He had to go.
So now the elites that run the media, government have managed to not really do brexit, and managed to drag it out for almost 7 years so far. By design. And have practically bankrupted the economy with their socialist economics, and green bollox.
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Re: The Boris issue?

Postby Gnomatic » 08 Jul 2022, 18:13

So rolling brownouts are now expected in several EU countries this winter do to their reliance on Russian oil and especially nat gas. Russia is cutting the flow. The EU just changed their minds and declared that nuclear and nat gas are now "green" and royally pissed off that Greta Thumsomthing or other. France had a modicum of sense and kept their nuclear power plants online, so they will be somewhat insulated on the electricity side of things. Germany? Not so much. They turned off most of their nuke plants and are bringing back coal. Somehow this made Greta happy?

I don't know the conventional reserve capacity of nat gas in the EU/UK vicinity, but there's plenty there that can be fracked!

We in the US are idiotic enough to allow companies to clear vast swaths of forests, grind up the wood and turn it into pellets. To sell to the UK etc so Boris and his buddies can burn it for electricity and call it "green."

The world is run by idiots.
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Re: The Boris issue?

Postby Burgerman » 08 Jul 2022, 18:45

And at greater than 3x the cost as the coal that we have shit loads of.

The EU has almost no supply. The UK has lots. We are walking on gas, and oil and coal. At least 150 to 200 years worth of it. And the UK waters have lots of gas, oil remaining for at least another 100 years. But because of the green nonsense, and because boris siggned up to some EU nonsense we are not "allowed" to use it. Or even allow the oil companies to map out new reserves ready to use. No licenses granted. And we tax them to death to stop them.

Because the EU fear that we will be able to out compete them in business with cheap plentiful fuel, and so they pushed their green agenda. Boris being only too pleased to agree to it all in the "brexit deal" that nobody wanted. We did not need or want any deal. We wanted to do as we voted and just leave. The elites, the media have an agenda and they are all lefty/woke globalists. They LOVE the new USSR socialist centrally controled superstate they are building and the peoples wishes are ignored.

So we could be oil and gas rich, and reopen all the ultra cheap coal mines. But no. Boris planned to tax us yet more to pay for 450 billion worth (another 450) of windmills... That some days generate less than 1% of our needs. Its a pie in the sky nonsense that is bankrupting the country.
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Re: The Boris issue?

Postby greybeard » 08 Jul 2022, 19:07

Allied to this "New World Order" nonsense that Johnson supports so openly, and the mysterious "coincidental" food and other shortages, is anyone else having difficulty obtaining prescription medicines? For several months now our usual pharmacy claims they are not able to get certain medicines I rely on to keep breathing.
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Re: The Boris issue?

Postby Bubbernator » 08 Jul 2022, 19:30

"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong."
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Re: The Boris issue?

Postby martin007 » 08 Jul 2022, 21:00

greybeard wrote:Allied to this "New World Order" nonsense that Johnson supports so openly, and the mysterious "coincidental" food and other shortages, is anyone else having difficulty obtaining prescription medicines? For several months now our usual pharmacy claims they are not able to get certain medicines I rely on to keep breathing.



Buy on the black market.
I did it 1 year ago; Now it is more difficult.
What medication/substance do you need?


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--Thomas Sowell


A great truth.
The only solution left is to do what they have done in Japan...
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Re: The Boris issue?

Postby Burgerman » 09 Jul 2022, 07:27

Shoot the ex prime minister? :shock:
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Re: The Boris issue?

Postby martin007 » 09 Jul 2022, 14:22

Burgerman wrote:Shoot the ex prime minister? :shock:



Yes.
Eliminate politicians...
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Re: The Boris issue?

Postby greybeard » 11 Jul 2022, 18:51

martin007 wrote:
Burgerman wrote:Shoot the ex prime minister? :shock:



Yes.
Eliminate politicians...


A bit extreme, but I've always been of the opinion that anyone showing a desire to be a politician should be automatically barred from ever becoming one.
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Re: The Boris issue?

Postby Burgerman » 11 Jul 2022, 23:26

Yes. And I always said that I would never join any club that would want me as a member. :argument
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Re: The Boris issue?

Postby daveonwheels » 12 Jul 2022, 04:45

no.groucho marx said that
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Re: The Boris issue?

Postby Burgerman » 12 Jul 2022, 08:21

I know. I didnt say I was the first. But after being a member of various clubs I agree.
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