Quickie P222 SE motors ?

[expresso]

A friend asked me to try it if i could - - if i plugged it in when i am ready - and the program lets me continue etc, - - would that mean its compatible - or better yet - if its not - would it stop me from doing anything once i plug the cable in his chair ? i dont want to damage anything on his chair - it will either work or not ? also - this might be silly question but i want to make sure from someone who knows - once i get the cable - get it working with the software etc,- plugged in my pilot - i do have to turn the chair on with the cable plugged in to my chair and computer etc, to make the changes ?

i know i should know better - since i am a computer geek of some sort - but i also want to be careful with my new chair at the same time - and sometimes its the little things you over look -

so Cable in joystick - and in computer - open software - and use it - - ?

thanks - today is actually a very nice day here - going to use it today -

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Quicki P222 se 2.jpg

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Quicki P222 se 1.jpg

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Sorry for the double pictures - i thought i didnt get the whole picture in there - didnt realize you can scroll down to see the rest of the chair - i just woke up - need some time

thats my new chair

[Burgerman]

Very pretty. Looks awfully high though?

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hi - thanks - yeah - it is higher than most people like - my old chair that i was used to was the same - 19 inch seat height - i got used to that and didnt mind it - so i just kept the same specs - with the tilt - it adds 1.75 inch - and my cushion is a good 4 inch - i just got used to the height -

first day out today and its faster for sure than my old chair - a friend has the arrow with the GB motors - not sure what they are rated at - 7 mph or 7.5 mph -
with my old chair - i couldnt keep up - now i catch up - pass and just keep going - i dont like the way it controls like you said - its too jerky trying to go slow around people on the sidewalks - turning sucks as you ride - and front wheels want to come off the ground everytime -

i hope after i manage to program it - i will get a smoother more controlled ride - with the speed also - i will be asking you for sure about the programming when i am ready - waiting on cable -

the motors do have a certain wine to them when fast - which dosnt bother me much - but when going slow - it has a different noise pitch - which is more noticeable than i would have liked - of course now that i know - i will hear more -

as long as its not a issue with them - i deal with it - at first i thought they were quiet - but i didnt really use it till today - i am guessing its the gears breaking in and settling - ? do these things have Oil in them also ? or no fluids at all ?

the front suspension works very good - and battery life is not good - i didnt do much today in terms of distance but alot of popping wheelies etc, because of bad programming - all my greens went out by the time i got home - the batteries are new - so i do need to charge them for a good dozen cycles maybe ? or more before they settle in to there best state -

[Burgerman]

Forget battery meters. Its not possible to measure batteries with any meaning. Its almost pointless, although SEEMS to be meaningful...

As for height, - that MUST make it less stable??

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with the lights - thats how i decide when i need to get back to charge - if i am far - i get worried -

and yeah i would think it would be a bit more stable lower - just like a car - but i got used to this height with my old chair - felt fine to me - once programmed - i should feel much better - with me - higher things always better - helps me with things - around the apt. - etc, - i cant get up from a low seating -

even though i have tilt - i use that also to help in getting up - i cant reach with my arms - so being higher helps with that - i feel more helpless lower -

i found a pic of you chair with the pilot remote - its an older review you have up -- i am having a issue - with this pilot remote - its mounted on a swing away which is fine - i need it - but with my old model - the joystick stick was more level to my hand with my arm on the armrest pad - i figure this is going to be the same - but its a pilot remote - and now - it sits lower on the arm - and my wrist hand has to bend down a little to hold it - its not level to the rest of my arm -

do you know of any adapter to lift the pilot remote up a little - level it out ? i tried looking around online - sunrise parts etc, - and nothing -

[ex-Gooserider]

Your batteries should get SLIGHTLY better after about a dozen or so charge cycles, after that it's a slow downhill path...

The normal gear motor gearboxes are filled with a thick grease. They might wear in a little, but I wouldn't expect big improvements in noise levels, the gears are pretty well fitted to begin with, and the grease will prevent most wear.

In terms of spacing up the control pod - first I'd find out if there are any adjustments that are built in - if not, or they still don't get the pod up where you want it, then it shouldn't be that hard to make / purchase your own spacer to boost it up. If your pod is like mine, it is secured to the bracket with a couple of 1/4-20 screws or bolts. I would either get or make a couple of spacers that match - ideal would be a plate with appropriate size and spaced holes, but that would likely take more machining than you are able to do. Cheapest / easiest would be a stack of 1/4" flat washers at each mounting point. If you add more than about 1/4" or so of spacer, replace the screws with correspondingly longer ones, but be careful not to use screws that are too long - they should NOT "bottom out" in the holes...

ex-Gooserider

[Burgerman]

Swing away looks like its upside down. You may need to dissasemble it, and move the bracket that holds the pod, on the top rather than the bottom.

[LROBBINS]

On Rachi's first power chair I also had to raise the joystick. Used a spacer, but made it out of a piece of wood so it was easy to "machine". It's not a "high stress" item. Of course, Burgerman and Ex-G are right to suggest first checking whether you can adjust the regular mount. Ciao, Lenny

[Burgerman]

http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/powerchair4.htm

On this old bm1 page are lots of photos. Some can be made huge.

Some show the swing away in bits...

The plate the pod bolts to, can be fitted top (as mine is) or bottom. Makes about 30mm difference in height.

[Burgerman]

Batteries, range, ignore battery gauge, as its not possible for it to even get close to being accurate. Use it as a vague hint.

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Thats an idea - i have to look at my older chair swing arm - i have the same one - only on a different joystick and that one - the joystick just sit on top with two screws under it flat - i though about adding something to raise it - but when i look at the pilot joystick and how the swing arm is attached to it at the very tip - its not like my old chair - - it looks to go right in the joystick - i dont see how i can unscrew it or remove it to see if i can turn it around -
if that can be done and it still works the same - that my just do the trick - i will have to bring that idea up with the Vendor guy who is still helping me work out a few little things - have him take a look - he was a Tech. also - he does seem to know a bit more than the others and willing to look into it - i just met him - and seemed promising - lets see -

these little things are a pain in the ass to get corrected - thanks for the suggestions - always good to hear from others -