Bins...

[Burgerman]

Due to "austerity" measures (which just means that our conservative government are spending within their means unlike the stupid party) we get bins emptied every 2 weeks which means people struggle. Not only that but there are 3 bin sizes and they give people the smallest ones...

I got sick or that. And the stupid recycle bins. (I recycled mine straight into the green bins!). There are whole families trying to get 2 weeks waste into 1 bin half the size of mine. I also had issues. Because to make things worse I am sometimes trapped on my bed with a sore. And my carers fail to take out the bin on the right day.

So I CALLED the council, sent a letter and ask for a man WITH a brain to visit me.
I explained my problem. Partly lots of ileostomy waste meaning a sealed bag every morning. Partly the problem with being unable to get the bins out on time frequently. Now I insult my labour council frequently. But they do actually have a man with a brain there!

1. He offered me 2 bins! Whoohoo!
2. And not only that he offered the biggest sized ones whoohoo 2.
3. And not only that THEY come into MY drive and get them so nobody can forget wooho 3.

To make life easy for them I moved the shiny new bins nearer the road.
You may be wise to consult them and see if they will do the same with a little persuasion by letter!
I am the envy of my neibours!

[Dan]

I think this is more to do with european regulations on recycling than austerity. Councils have landfill targets to be met, that means less waste going into holes in the ground and forcing people to recycle also means less dumping waste into a some hole somewhere.

I also told my local council I was unable to recycle or able put my bin out, they sent out two guys to check me out, now the binmen or whatever they are called these days, come into my yard wheel the bin out and wheel it back in again. I don't recycle anything, it all goes into the same bin.

[martin007]

Recycling is positive.

[Burgerman]

Some is. Some is rediculous.

For E.G. Recycling bottles. Theres a bottle bank at a supermarket near here. A woman in a BMW X5 turned up and emptied 4 green bottles into it. I asked her why. "To save the planet". She didnt even go to the shop. She drove from a villiage about 5 miles to throw away 4 bottles. Burning fuel, and poluting as she goes. Bottles are made from silicone. Sand. They have to be re melted and re cleaned and recast, just like sand. Much of the world is covered in sand we are not short of it.

But if the local authority wish to recycle my waste. They are free to do so.
Its not my job to start sorting through rubbish, on hands and knees like my 70 year old neibour does. It should be automated. Theres plenty of automated recycling plants around. Theres no need to force the public to do it for them. Some cant. Some are not interested in the green socialism being forced upon us, and the public get it wrong anyway. So all the recycle bins go to one place to be automatically resorted by machine anyway!

[martin007]

A woman in a BMW X5 turned up and emptied 4 green bottles into it. I asked her why. "To save the planet". She didnt even go to the shop. She drove from a villiage about 5 miles to throw away 4 bottles. Burning fuel, and poluting as she goes.

Human stupidity is infinite.

[LROBBINS]

Driving 5 miles to recycle 4 bottles is pretty stupid, but

Much of the world is covered in sand we are not short of it.

isn't quite true. Not all sand is usable for making glass, nor even for making concrete, and at the moment there's actually a near world-wide shortage. https://www.theguardian.com/global/2018/jul/01/riddle-of-the-sands-the-truth-behind-stolen-beaches-and-dredged-islands (If you don't like the Guardian, just google sand shortage and you'll find lots of other sources reporting much the same thing.)

Italy is now re-cycling about 95% of glass, but it's collected in bins in every neighborhood for all kinds of container materials all mixed together - plastic, aluminum, glass, tetra-pak etc. It then gets sorted at regional centers.

[martin007]

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Recycling is positive.

[Burgerman]

Italy is now re-cycling about 95% of glass, but it's collected in bins in every neighborhood for all kinds of container materials all mixed together - plastic, aluminum, glass, tetra-pak etc. It then gets sorted at regional centers.

Thats the only sensible way to do it.

[elryko1992]

What camera model you have for outdoor?

[Burgerman]

On the front of house? Just the cheapest ebay INDOOR one I could find. It steers left right, up down, 720P. And infra red so sees at night too. I watch my van, front door, and everything that walks or parks nearby. WiFi range was crap so that square thing is a 13db gain antenna. Whole thing was about 30 uk pounds. I drilled the wall to get the power from its wall wart inside the house.

But it lives under an overhanging bit of roof so only gets a bit of damp if its raining and very windy. Been working about 5 years so far.

[martin007]

You have it all controlled Burgerman...

[Burgerman]

Yes but you get what you pay for. Its crap at night!

[martin007]

In Spain it is illegal to record public sites.

[Burgerman]

You cant record your own property?
Here its legal to video anything or photograph it from ANY public place, and in your own place...

[martin007]

It's illegal to focus and record with a fixed video camera public site.
It's legal to take photographs and video on a public site.

You understand me?

[Burgerman]

No.

[elryko1992]

A friend buy camera for outdoor Reolink, and is very good 5mp 1080p wireless, card... 80€ each.

[Burgerman]

Is it steerable, zoomable?

Link?

[elryko1992]

https://m.reolink.com/product/rlc-410w/#specifications

And this

https://m.reolink.com/product/rlc-422w/

[martin007]

No.

Video recording with portable camera > 100% legal

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Photos. > 100% legal.

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Security camera footage.

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Illegal public site.
Legal Private property.


You understand?

[Burgerman]

How do they tell the difference between cameras? There are cameras that can be used for both... Silly law! Makes no sense!

E.G. I have an old gopro clone on my window sill. Its been videoing from the upstairs window for 2 years. I can also see that on my laptop since its got BT and it can do car dash as you drive. So what sort of camera is that. It can see the street and my neibours house. I can pick it up and use it in my hands as well.

[martin007]

The law says that the surveillance and control of public sites (with security cameras) is exclusive to the police and Civil Guard.

[Burgerman]

And the definition of security camera or not security camera?
And the definition of filming your own garden and getting the street in the picture, or "surveilance" is?
Who decides?
Is my quadcopters camera a serveilance camera? Or just so I can see where its going? Who decides?
Is my gopro copy, a surveilance camera? And its mostly showing my own property. But has some background of street or other houses in the distance. And what if someone moves where its pointed when closing curtais? Who decides? That law is unworkable.

[martin007]

In Spain many laws are ambiguous and unviable.
Legal insecurity is rampant.


Didn't you know?

[Burgerman]

Well then most would be thrown out of court. So the police are wasting time and money. A law needs accurate definitions that can be show to be broken using evidence. Opinions about if something can be seen like a street when it shouldnt, or what definition constitutes a surveilance camera wont work in court.

[foghornleghorn]

Information Commissioners Office - Domestic CCTV systems guidance

Using CCTV at your home

There are many domestic CCTV systems on the market to help you protect your home. If you’re thinking of using one, you need to make sure you do so in a way that respects other people’s privacy.

If you set up your system so it captures only images within the boundary of your private domestic property (including your garden), then the data protection laws will not apply to you.

But what if your system captures images of people outside the boundary of your private domestic property – for example, in neighbours’ homes or gardens, shared spaces, or on a public footpath or a street?

Then the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and the Data Protection Act 2018 (DPA18) will apply to you, and you will need to ensure your use of CCTV complies with these laws. This guidance refers to them as the ‘data protection laws’.

Regardless of whether or not your use of CCTV falls within the data protection laws, the ICO recommends you use it responsibly to protect the privacy of others.
What does ‘private domestic property’ mean?

It means the boundary of the property (including the garden) where you live. This can include rented property, or a private space in a communal residential dwelling – such as a flat, or a private room in a residential care home.
How can I use CCTV responsibly at my property?

You should ask yourself whether CCTV is actually the best way to improve your home security.

Think about the following questions:

Do I really need CCTV?
Are there other things I could use to protect my home, such as better lighting?
What is the most privacy-friendly way to set up the system?
What areas do I want the cameras to capture?
Can I position the cameras to avoid intruding on my neighbours’ property or any shared or public spaces?
Do I need to record the images, or is a live feed enough?
Has my CCTV system got an audio-recording facility? Audio recording is very privacy-intrusive. So in most cases where householders use CCTV, they should disable audio recording.

Think about the problem you are trying to tackle. It will usually be to safeguard you and your property against crime. Check your local police advice about crime prevention. Better locks, security lighting or an alarm system may be more effective and less expensive ways of securing your property.

If you decide to use CCTV, think about what areas need to be covered, and whether your cameras need to capture images beyond the boundary of your property. Remember, if your cameras don’t capture images beyond your boundary, the data protection laws won’t apply to you.
What is the law if my CCTV captures images of people outside my own home and garden?

If your CCTV captures images beyond your property boundary, such as your neighbours’ property or public streets and footpaths, then your use of the system is subject to the data protection laws.

This does not mean you are breaking the law. But it does mean that, as the CCTV user, you are a data controller. So you will need to comply with your legal obligations under the data protection laws.

You can still capture images, but you need to show you are doing it in ways that comply with the data protection laws and uphold the rights of the people whose images you are capturing.
What must I do if I capture images of people outside my own home and garden?

If you are capturing images beyond your property boundary, you should have a clear and justifiable reason for doing so. In particular, you will need to think why you need these images. If asked by an individual or the ICO, you will need to be able to explain your reasons, so you should write them down now. You should also write down why you think capturing the images is more important than invading the privacy of your neighbours and passers-by.

You will also need to:

Let people know you are using CCTV by putting up signs saying that recording is taking place, and why.
Ensure you don’t capture more footage than you need to achieve your purpose in using the system.
Ensure the security of the footage you capture – in other words, holding it securely and making sure nobody can watch it without good reason.
Only keep the footage for as long as you need it – delete it regularly, and when it is no longer needed.
Ensure the CCTV system is only operated in ways you intend and can’t be misused for other reasons. Anyone you share your property with, such as family members who could use the equipment, needs to know the importance of not misusing it.

You also need to make sure you respect the data protection rights of the people whose images you capture. This includes the following things:

Responding to subject access requests (SARs), if you receive any. Individuals have a right to access the personal data you hold about them, including identifiable images. They can ask you verbally or in writing. You must respond within one month and give them a copy of the data.
Deleting footage of people if they ask you to do so. You should do this within one month. You can refuse to delete it if you specifically need to keep it for a genuine legal dispute – in which case you need to tell them this, and also tell them they can challenge this in court or complain to the ICO.
Consider any objection you get now from particular people about capturing their image in the future. Given the nature of CCTV systems, this may be very difficult to do. However, you should again think whether you need to record images beyond your property boundary – particularly if your system is capturing images from a neighbour’s home or garden.

What happens if I break the law?

If you fail to comply with your obligations under the data protection laws, you may be subject to enforcement action by the ICO. This could include a fine. You may also be subject to legal action by affected individuals, who could pursue court claims for compensation.

If you follow our guidance and take all reasonable steps to comply with your data protection obligations, the ICO is unlikely to regard you as a regulatory risk. So the ICO would be unlikely to think that taking enforcement action against you was a proportionate use of its resources.

What else should I think about?

Before you install the system, consider speaking to your neighbours and explaining what you are doing. Listen to any objections or concerns they may have. It may also be useful to invite your neighbours to view the footage you capture. This may relieve any concerns they have about your use of CCTV. It may also avoid disputes escalating or complaints being made about your recording.
The phrase ‘domestic CCTV system’ refers to the use of any video surveillance equipment mounted or fixed on your home. It can include cameras fitted to doorbells.
You should remember that your use of a domestic CCTV system may be appropriate, but publicly uploading or streaming footage of identifiable people would need more justification. In most cases it would not be justifiable.
You don’t need to register with the ICO or pay a fee (this is a change from the previous law). However, you must maintain records of how and why you are capturing these images, and for how long you are keeping them. You may need to make these records available to the ICO on request.

[Burgerman]

More unenforcable EU bullshit!

1. It says what I am doing is legal. All depending on opinions and words like try, should, etc.
2. most of it makes every one of the millions of online cams on car parks, beaches, city centres, etc illegal... I can list sites with literally tens of thousands of such cams. Heres one with 25 million views! And in spain! https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webca ... ianos.html
Dover beach. https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webca ... -kent.html
Heres hundreds more city cams https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/live- ... -cams.html

Every house in this street (and most of the town and other towns probably) has cameras aimed at the front garden except a couple. Including the now common doorbell cameras. They are going to need to prosecute literally millions of normal people which they will never do. Its just more EU bullshit. HoW are they going to know if you keep images, or for how long and do you suppose anyone has EVER actually been asked? And who decides what a "legitimate" reason is? Its all a joke. Its all about responsibility pushing. And these are all wide angle cameras.

And it claims that it only applies to cameras fixed to buildings. How fixed? Velcro? What about my gopro sat on a tripod on my bed window sill videoing the street for 2 years? As I said its all unenforcable bullshit.

How about this. I am disabled and want to see who comes to the door from my bed, and if the bins are emptied. The camera is therefore STEERABLE.

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How are they going to stop the street or those 3 houses being in the background? Who decides if its a legitimate use? Who decides how long I keep the recordings or how long is acceptable? Who decides any of these endless and subjective parameters. Answer, nobody can. And they will not even try. This website is the same. I refuse to add that stupid GDPR warning thing because its bollox. The internet EU police will soon be coming to arrest me!

[foghornleghorn]

Dover looks cold and miserable.

[Burgerman]

Right now, its cold, windy, and raining, and the same here. I was going to get up today for a change. But a quick look through other people illegal web cams told me not to bother. Theres one on cleethorpes main street/beach too.

[martin007]

I was going to get up today for a change. But a quick look through other people illegal web cams told me not to bother.

You do well.