Afghanistan

[Burgerman]

After the old mumbling duffer biden has pulled out all troops without giving even time for other countries OR HIS OWN people to get out, and surrendered to a bunch of thugs with few weapons and wasting the previous 20 years, Leaving the taliban in control. The taliban are busy carrying on the same beheadings and slitting throats and shootings of anyone that isnt an extreme muslim and torturing and maiming. And forcing 12 year old girls to marry their "soldiers". After all their books leader married a 9 year old so thats all OK then.

Meaning half the country.

Then along comes an even more extreme muslim group called ISIS K who are busy killing everyone that isnt ISIS K devout muslims. And yes that includes the taliban! Because according to ISIS K they are not extreme enough and not correctly following their evil book so are also "kafirs". And around and around it goes. 14 centuries on, and they are still murdering each other over an imaginary freind - this time with a suicide bomb at kabul airport. It will never end as long as logic and reason is ignored in favour of magical thinking and woo woo.

THATS why logic and reason matters. If you have that then all the mumbo jumbo is over. Finished. Gone. At a stroke. Along with the centuries of death and suffering across almost every country and religion that ever existed.

[Gnomatic]

You sound like Tony Blair!

Yes, the Biden Admin has bungled this withdraw badly. And Trump entered negotiations with the Taliban and formed an agreement that would have seen US forces pull out even sooner. Then there's Obama, who sent over a military surge in Afghanistan, to what end, nobody knows. Which leaves us with Bush Jr, who elevated a "get Bin Laden" mission to a nation building one. It was never going to work. And the current last stages of this Forever War will likely deteriorate from here before the final withdraw is completed.

Four Presidencies, thousands of lives, and trillions in treasure. Up in smoke.

Some good reading on the topic .....

https://smile.amazon.com/Why-We-Lost-Da ... 524&sr=8-1

https://smile.amazon.com/Afghanistan-Pa ... 757&sr=8-2

[Burgerman]

Tony blair? He is a labour pro EU moron.

As for afganistan its all ultimately pointless. Get or bomb bin laden. Yes. But theres literally half of the iddle east. And half of muslim africa. All with the same vile delusional imaginary freind. Theres no way to nation build or anything else in any muslim countries. They all have the same people with the same beliefs. And the most devout ones hate Me. And you. And are sworn to kill you. But first they must destroy the real enemy. Other muslims that are not doing as their book says to do. Like them. So it doesent matter what you do. HALF of afganistan and every other muslim country absolutely agree with what we call (incorectly) terrorists. They are still agreeing with this "terrorism" while they get their own family blown up or 12 year old daughter married to a taliban "fighter". The very ones that attack the other muslims. The latest super extreme ones are now blowing up the taliban! For having a less extreme view! As I say what goes around comes around over there. They are all as bad as each other. No way to ever help or stop them. Non of us, should ever have been in afganistan in the first place other than to bomb bin laden.

But biden is a real idiot. He is abandonng his OWN people, own equipment, and leaving other nations in the same boat. The ones that were supporting him. The US right now is looking pretty bad. You couldnt have a worse leader. He isnt one. He cant even answer a question. He is the worst president you never had.

[Burgerman]

This bloke is a little annoyed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxwuwPYjgXg

[Bubbernator]

This bloke is more than annoyed.
Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller, USMC.

https://youtu.be/Lj4RHa0G1Bk

[martin007]

Biden is a puppet of globalist socialism.
Globalist socialism is the new world religion.
"Do what I say, but don't do what I do."

[Burgerman]

Quite. The US is adopting the economics of venuzuala! And every other failed socialist economic country through the last century.