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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 25 Apr 2023, 23:24

Look at the graphic of this 1TB drive in my laptop. Its divided into a very small FAT32 system, UEFI boot. And then a windows C drive, 248GB, and 680GB storage.

Its required for any modern non legacy bios on your new motherboard.
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Re: New PC

Postby Arima » 27 Apr 2023, 04:00

Oh that is another timely post BM. Someday I will find a use for the 50gb ssd meanwhile Had one other USB stick loaded with Strelec recovery apps on it. Went ahead and used that for the bios update which went ok. Installed a version of LTSC which is labeled "Evaluation". Needed the wifi and bluetooth drivers updated before they would work. Then downloaded my favorite game and scored a victory in the first match using the worst old keyboard and mini mouse.

Have a download of LTSC which found online somewhere. Going to try to load that. It has a folder labeled "ConsoleAct v2.4 Portable password 2019". Does that sound familiar to anyone? It contains Additional startup parameters (keys): . I need to download the Ratiborus KMS Tools 01.08.2022 Portable and run it? Also is the oobe\bypassnro command a thing anymore? Will set up my nvme drive as you have shown.

It all has to come apart so I can install the secind NVMe drive and the I/O shield. You can buy a I7 12700 and a 3070 gpu assembled ready to run for $1500. Don't think I really saved any money but it was a fun to do it for the first time. Is there one do it all program for benchmarking/monitoring all components?
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 27 Apr 2023, 04:44

I can upload the version of LTSC I am using. Along with the crack you really need.

As for benching you need to download the only real CPU tester that anyone and everyone uses to compare CPUs. It does single core -- sort of a bit useful but theres never any game or program that is performance orientated now that uses just 1 core. But it also does the best multicore comparison of all CPU testing software. Thats CineBench R23. Multicore testing is more relevant to anything that needs any performance.
Theres not a lot of point benchmarking a 3070, 3080, 3080 ti, 3090 as they all perform pretty much the same as one another regardless of brand. Obviously 3090 is faster than 3070etc. Download say furmark to give some benchmark for that.

https://www.maxon.net/en/downloads/cine ... -downloads
A quick general test is https://www.userbenchmark.com/


Heres my R23 benchmark. Which is pretty good. CPU only.
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 27 Apr 2023, 04:58

This is te crack although there maybe a 1.8 or 1.9 version by now. But no need. This gives permanant activation. Not sure what your version of LTSC is.

I am using LTSC IoT which has support for a decade...
And its 21H2 with all updates.

Crack below.
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 27 Apr 2023, 05:10

Edition: Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Version: 21H2
Installed on: ‎09/‎05/‎2022 (no idea where it got this, its much older! And cloned on 5 PC/Laptops!)
OS build: 19044.2846
Experience: Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.4190.0
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Re: New PC

Postby Arima » 27 Apr 2023, 19:20

Very cool! Downloaded the AIO.zip.

Going to take me a few days to wade thru all of these goodies. Main goal is to make sure all my junk is working as it should. Seems to run around 56c for the cpu and 67c for the gpu. This is without the case being closed up. Which reminds me I need a dust mesh to cover one of the case panels.
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 27 Apr 2023, 21:45

Is that when you are running a CPU bench like cinebench R.32 because thats when you will see some heat/throttling

It will max out the load for a minute or so. If you run that, at the same time as furmark, to test the graphics at max simultaniously then you will see some real heat. And as you overclock, if you do, then the CPU for e.g will double the watts...
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 28 Apr 2023, 01:59

Also try this one:
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Re: New PC

Postby Arima » 28 Apr 2023, 16:29

Used SPECCY to see the temperature while playing the tank game. Not intending to overclock or trying to set any records. Just want to make sure all components are operating at the rated level. Was able to reload LTSC using the copy I had downloaded a couple years ago but it isn't the late version you are showing. If it's not to much trouble to share yours that would be great.

When Windows installs it is creating the partitions on the NVMe drive. Trying to figure out how you adjusted the partitions. Windows also creates a recovery partition which I do not see on your screenshot. I'm so slow at all this but determined. :thumbup:
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 28 Apr 2023, 16:47

OK. Game playing doesent stress out the CPU or GPU anywhere close to enough, and different games and different detail settings, as well as different resolutions all stress the components differently.

In order to make sure your cooling solution is adequate you need to run CPU all cores at 100% max, as well as the graphics GPU at full power and do so for long enough to watch temperatures max out and watch for throttling It will get noisy.

Mine never exceeds around 45C on an overclocked 3090, and graphics memory never exceed 50C
CPU never exceeds 65C even with 16 cores and 32 threads at 100% and 4.7ghz all core (at a huge 40% overclock running at 250 watts)
But thats with huge radiators, double sided graphics water blocks, CPU and VRM coolers etc.

So you must run furmark on its burnin setting and cinebanch r32 simultaniously and watch the figures carefully with the tools.

I will zip and upload the LTSC I use which is turned into the IOT version by that crack... Watch this thread.

As for getting rid of the extra partitions you just delete the ones you dont want in windows, disk management, and keep the fat32 hidden boot, and the windows one. And then resize the windows one to fill the rest of the disk using the same tool, or as I did, make a fat32 boot which windows should already have done, and a windows partition around 250GB, and a 3rd store one to fill the whole rest of the disk for storage space. Which makes backing up just the windown partition way faster and easier. I use the free version of Macrium for that. The best backup program there is.
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 28 Apr 2023, 21:03

Right... I zipped it, and uploaded to here www.wheelchairdriver.com/doomed/LTSC.zip

Let me know as soon as its downloaded.

If the download fails, then its because right now this site is being migrated to a faster server. And I dont know what happens if you are in the middle of a downlod when that happens! So theres that!
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Re: New PC

Postby Arima » 29 Apr 2023, 05:25

I have it now. Less than 15 mins to complete the transfer. Thank You!
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 29 Apr 2023, 10:39

Good. Office?

Photoshop CS6, Premier CS6, DXO suite, Other stuff?
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Re: New PC

Postby Arima » 30 Apr 2023, 05:27

Everything installed smoothly and activated without issue. Think I'm good on software for now. It is nice to have favorites instead of favourite. :D
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 30 Apr 2023, 10:32

The crack also does office. And windows should be PERMANANTLY activated. Not 180 days, rinse and repeat.

If you did it correctly you are now using LTSC IoT version? Because that has 10 years support/updates.
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Re: New PC

Postby Arima » 30 Apr 2023, 16:09

Think I have it...

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You made it all very easy! Don't use Office but if I ever need it these scripts will come in handy.
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 30 Apr 2023, 16:13

Well done. I tried to make it idiot proof! But they keep on bringing out better idiots. So I thought I would check... :D
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 05 May 2023, 03:44

And now your next job.

Once you built your PC and spent a couple of weeks configuring it, you might want to hide the rats nest of wires! Inside the case, and MORE importantly on your bench/workstation.

I spend a lot of time doing both. To the point where I fitted trunking around the walls of my room. JUST visible to the left of the screen. Inside all the cables run. Even if I remove the RC transitter and other junk on the right, theres no wires visible other than exitind holes in the trunking to allow things to plug into an outlet or go direct to a device. So NO visible computer cables. Even the chargers and other things along the wall on the right in this photo, has power and many USB cables, network cables, modems and powerline adapters all cables hidden and PC connected. All run to the vatrious chargers, RC equipment hook up points, cameras. cable systems, TV etc. Non are visible. Also you need wireless keyboard and mouse too obviously!

I really am that OCD. This took 6 metres of trunking on 2 walls and many CORRECT LENGTH cables of different types all ordered fom amazon one at a time when I realised what needed to be connected and I measured it. And I repainted my room first! Actually easy to do just very fiddely and frustrating. But just once! Many velcro wrap cable ties used!

Spot the cables. Yet theres eight of USB 3 and 3.1 in use here and 240V to many things, 2 HDMI, and much more connected in this picture.
Its all very well building a great computer, but the whole workstation needs to be "built" right. Then its a pleasure to use and no dust traps of wires...

So your next job! :D Post an OCD pic when done!
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Re: New PC

Postby Arima » 06 May 2023, 20:28

Burgerman wrote:And now your next job. Once you built your PC and spent a couple of weeks configuring it


Very optimistic timeframe. I did finally find a free version of Macruim. Version 7 something...

That is a stiff challenge for sure. I often think about all the cables in my world...why so many. Especially around the bedside. Charger for chair, charger for 2 phones, usb lamps. You don't have any lamps on your desk. And you must have excellent vision to work in front of the window. My screen looks all washed out when I position it in front of the window. For some reason all the background light makes my head hurt when trying to use the computer like that.

A wireless keyboard would be one less cable...you still need to charge it yes?. I love my arrow keys with the 10 key pad next to it. My weak right hand has limited finger function. Truth is I only use the Num 0, and Del key with the small finger. And the Rt Ctrl, shift key with my thumb. Arrow keys of course are for driving..fwd, back, left, and right. The empty space around the arrow keys is my home reference (resting) position. Thinking a 60% keyboard and removing all the keys I don't need might work.

I like the round the room counter. You can roll under without mashing your joystick?
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 06 May 2023, 21:15

No, my knees go under, my joystick partly goes over it, but it also has a swingaway. So no problem. he keyboard goes on my knee and the mouse on that mat you see in the picture. Or because both are wireless from my bed... (BIG screen! just change resolution.)

Your screen issues will likely be solved if you have a huge 55 inch 4K screen. In this case its OLED so black is truly black and veiwing angles are not important as they look the same even edge on. The sheer size blocks out the window light. And its brightness and colour do the rest. Its a 4K LG OLED TV carefully set up as a PC monitor. And its glorious! Everything else looks dim, grey, and sad in comparison. Advantage is that it also does sound via the same HDMI cable, so no extra wires... And its big! Open 20 windows at once if you want and just move them out of view to the right, while you watch a movie and answer email at the same time. Plenty of space! No need for scaling, at native resolution 4K is perfect at 1 to 1 pixels.

And watch TV and whatever you want as a TV if you want too. Sound is good.

Not cheap however. But if you want a TV anyway then it does double duty.

I dont have table lamps. I have a remote light switch, and 2 nightlights plugged in that take just 1 watt if the room is dark. Automatically. Work the same way as table lamps etc. In fact theres sockets around this room on all 4 walls, at bench hieght. The ones each side of my bed have 8 outlets each! Mostly used.
The other walls use the same trunking that hides the PC wires to have 3x 6 outlet extentions along the bench too. Theres more outlets in this room than you would believe. But I can control all of them on/off remotely with a couple of small white controllers. So I can turn on and off everything independently. From my bed. It got this way gradually over 26 years.
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 06 May 2023, 21:24

Macrium? I am on 8. And its free?
They TRY to con you into the paid verson. But theres a free version 8 that does everything for personal use.
If you cant find it I will upload it.

Also if light from a window bothers your eyes, you can try window tint film, as used on cars, or semi-silvered like a one way mirror. Both quite cheap even applied by a pro. I did that when I had a PC on a south facing window. But monitor brightness, contrast ratio (infinite on OLED) is probably a solution. PC monitors dont do good contrast.

Ifind that the OLED is totally unbeatable for photograhy and image editing. Or movie editing. Nothing else comes close! They all look dull and muddy. And I have had a lot of pro monitors.

Just one problem... https://pcgrace.com/can-the-rtx-3060-run-4k/
You many need to set games to low detail or to run them at 1080P settings and upscale. Depending on game. This is the whole reason I built my OTT PC. 4K MS FlightSim!
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 06 May 2023, 22:16

Latest 64bit macrium free 8.07xxx
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Let me know when you got it.
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Re: New PC

Postby Arima » 07 May 2023, 04:30

I have the download. Not sure when I will get back to play with puter. Worked on another project today...
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 07 May 2023, 10:20

Looks good! Hopefully not meant to be round :D

Now im hungry... Van valeting day though first!
Getting up, nebour is going to clean/wax my van for some beer money.
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 19 May 2023, 20:50

Any finished pics yet?
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Re: New PC

Postby Arima » 21 May 2023, 19:00

Not with all the exterior panels snapped into place. It's just sitting on the table connected to a crappy old monitor. Bought a new "gaming" mouse but that really didn't work as well as I hoped. Think I only turned it on twice in the last week. Tuning is not my favorite activity. But it is starting to get annoying working around it. Still need to take it all apart to install the I/O shield which I forgot. banghead
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Re: New PC

Postby Arima » 23 May 2023, 01:11

Today I felt guilty about not doing anything on the pc for the last week. Ran userbenchmarks and managed to update the wireless and bluetooth drivers.
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 23 May 2023, 02:26

All looks OK except background CPU at 100%??

That should be 0% to around 1%. At idle.
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Re: New PC

Postby Arima » 24 May 2023, 01:54

Yes I noticed the background usage also. Not sure where that is coming from. If the software is going to issue that message why can't they include the details that triggered the message! When I just looked at taskmanager cpu is 0%. Event Viewer had over 900 errors/warnings mostly pointing to wireless/bluetooth . After updating the drivers yesterday I only see half a dozen new error/warning msgs. Have 40 background processes and around 90 running services. Prgms installed: Intel driver update utility, Macrium, Edge, Visual C+ framework, Nvidia Graphics, Gaijin (game). The only thing I see using cpu is Userbenchmarks.

Cinebench:
Multi Core = 17499
Single Core = 1895
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Re: New PC

Postby Burgerman » 24 May 2023, 03:54

Edge? :fencing

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