PGDT Serial interface cable ...USB Alternative :D

[woodygb]

I don't have idea how much it cost, but original CAN/USB INTERFACE H-1111-068 price $750. It's a little bit expensive

TOTAL rip off ..I was quoted £125 ( trade ) direct from Curtis
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1256&start=20&st=0&sk=t&sd=a#p16423

[woodygb]

It's link to API and drivers for Sontheim's devices. And will not work with any other devices. If you have some Sontheim's device you can try

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Twinpanther's interface is Sontheim.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1965&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=80#p26122

[gologen]

Of course.
I use

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woodygb, if you have a newest could you point me. Because some parameters shows as "?"

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I got communication to controller. I can change parameters (OEM version). I did not try rewrite firmware. I have Win Vista32 on my laptop and i did not try any other system.
I'm not at home now, so i can show only parameter file.

[woodygb]

Wonderful!!.

Seems that your well ahead of me ..and I'd request that you take over in helping with the Q-logic programming problem.

I was hoping to obtain a 1314 dealer version...and use the files with the OEM prog.

[gologen]

I can post my dll file, if it help some body. But i gues, another device from ebay, you show picture, more powerfull. It has 32 bit processor. Mine only 8 bit. And when program is running CPU usage almost 100%.
I was trying to contact seller at ebay about dll for this CAN converter and some info about input commands, but did not get nothing.

Who bought this device - what you get with: dll, manual, etc.?

I had with mine manual for dll on Chinese.

[Seajays]

gologin, I bought one of these to try. I have not got it yet.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/320825471823?ss ... 009wt_1398

[gologen]

Yes i'm talking about this.

I'm interesting what you will get with.

[woodygb]

On behalf of Twinpanther who has the linked to Curtis / Sontheim CAN interface ...what should he do ...what files does he need ... to get coms working with the 1314 software?

I have the download from Sonheim should it help you to help "us".

[gologen]

I'm not big specialist in programming. It was my first dll-programming.

Sorry. I don't know Sontheim CAN interface.
I used manual for I+ME LevelX Driver Library (1314 PCPS uses it's API) to find all output functions and translated it to input functions for my device's dll.
Do you have some manuals from Sontheim?

[Twinpanther]

On behalf of Twinpanther who has the linked to Curtis / Sontheim CAN interface ...what should he do ...what files does he need ... to get coms working with the 1314 software?

I think that is my problem. I can get the driver to show "working" but can't seem to get it to connect. No lights on the CAN or anything when I try to connect to the 1314 software. The only time I get any lights are when I use the API test program to make em flash. I've gone back, deleted/reinstalled and started from scratch to see if it made a difference and it did not. Same errors as before. Almost seems worth trying to get Southern to sell me the dealer software just to get the exact drivers I need. Almost...

I have a Pride repair guy coming by today to fix a hydraulic/spring issue so I'm tucking away my toys for now and maybe pick his brain while he is here with hypotheticals.

Also, if it matters I'm running Windows 7 64bit and a PC powerful enough to push about anything. Maybe I'll try to run the 1314 in XP mode to see if it makes a difference. Doubt it but when you've tried everything else, lol.

[gologen]

Twinpanther, did you get some debugging program with your device?
If so, try communicate to controller. Speed 250 kbps. And see can you get answer?

[Twinpanther]

I received a previous model handheld programmer and a CANUSB cable in an anti-static bag. Nothing more. They were a "gift" as it were so even though I hinted at some programming I felt I was pushing it a little and just said Thank You in the end.
Any ideas where I might find a debugging program that might work?

[gologen]

I guess it's CANexplorer 4
http://www.sontheim-industrie-elektronik.de/en/service-support/downloadcenter/category/software.html
But i'm not sure what they say about valid license for soft.

[gologen]

Twinpanther, where did you buy CANUSB cable? Point me.

[woodygb]

Gologen has a working solution and appears more than willing to pass on the benefits of his hard work.
So it would seem sensible .. for those that haven't already got an interface ..to ask for his program mods and then to follow his lead and purchase the USB to CAN Bus Converter that he linked to..

[woodygb]

http://www.sontheim-industrie-elektroni ... ENG_V3.pdf

[gologen]

May be problem is here?

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[gologen]

Twinpanther, your Pride/Quantum USB cable should work with 1314 PCPS.
Try 32 bit system.

[Twinpanther]

Yup, been playing with CANexplorer 4 but only allowed DEMO mode and it is a bit over my head as having never played with anything like this before.
I tried running it as XP but it was a no go and since I have to fix my mother-in-laws laptop I'll install it on that after I get a fresh XP 32bit installed on it to see if it helps/works.
Like I mentioned earlier, my cable was a "gift" (take that as from an unidentifiable source) and is a pride cable direct from them.

[woodygb]

For those that are following this thread and want the Curtis OEM software here is a working link.. just read the page carefully and select the ... hard to see ..correct download links ..and ignore the adverts.

http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=786915

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[gologen]

Thank you woodygb for link.


And just info from manual "Curtis MC-2 power wheelchair system" from 1314 PCPS Help-System documentation.

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[woodygb]

Cheers for that Cologen ...
You type with a bit of an "accent" ...not Canadian by birth? .. Eastern European ..Russian?

Any suggestions on a "universal" dll?

[gologen]

Ukrainian.

Any suggestions on a "universal" dll?

1314 PCPS has own output parameters. NetPorty dll has same input parameters.
Other devices have own dll's. Every dll has different input parameters from 1314 PCPS.
In my situation i wrote middle dll between 1314-output and "my_device".ddl-input

[woodygb]

OK...

It's currently beyond me to write a dll.

IF others were to buy the exact same CANUSB ( your device ) that you bought..would you be willing to supply them with your solution?

OR

Would you suggest a different option.

Woody

[gologen]

For same device or same company devices (usualy same input parameters) they can use my dll. I can send dll (free of course).

[woodygb]

Probable missing parameter...

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Derived from this ...Q-logic parameters.

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[Burgerman]

Will this ALSO work on prides stuff?
Or is theres a custom firmware that wont play nicely with the curtiss OEM level controller?

[ex-Gooserider]

I can't seem to get the link for the Curtis Software that Woody posted to work... Last night I kept getting "too many connections" errors,

Today I get

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /get.php on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

If I use the link "as posted"

If I try to use the link "stripped" to just "http://www.yourfilelink.com/" which works to get into many sites, followed by drilling down to the desired place, I get

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Is it something funky about the link, or is it me?

ex-Gooserider

[Seajays]

Link is dead. I just tried it.

[woodygb]

B.M.
Cologen wrote

When my son got new wheelchair Quantum Q-Logic Q6000Z with terrible settings

I don't see why it shouldn't ...someone will have to try it out.

Seajay ..Haven't you already got the Curtis prog?

I suppose I could find another web link.....