STARTECH VAN WHEELS

[dannos85]

Hey all, Just found these on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... TQ:GB:1123

They may fit an Entervan? But im unsure if they will clear the suspension.
I would jump at this deal if i did not already have my 18's

[Burgerman]

Saw those already. Tyres definitely too wide. They will hit the rear sliding door bottoms. They should miss the suspension I think. I know this since theres just a 2mm gap on mine between door and tyre with the 245 section tyres on 8.5 wide rims.

But the tyres could be changed.

The other thing is the offset. I think these are going to sit too wide coimpared to the ones I have now. They are 45. They "might" fit a stock van with a little extra space between the rer doors and the tyres but the extended ones on rollx/entervan have less room. I would be interested in them myself. But then I would take the risk (offset?), and the tyres will fit my brothers car... So a deal could be done.

[440roadrunner]

I haven't kept up on the current stupidity with wheel bolt circles

Are you sure those will fit the bolt circle?

I have learned, much to my embarrassment that

Late model US 3/4 and 1 ton 8 bolt wheels "ain't" all the same

That the Mopar minivans are similar but different than the old Mopar "A body" (Dart/ Valient) 4" bolt circle

That some modern Mopar passenger cars are CLOSE but NOT the same as the traditional 4.5" bolt circle

This stuff is not always a matter of metric to inch conversion, they are actually different

Here's my 67, which has a Ford 4.5" bolt circle rear axle. It is currently wearing Jeep rear wheels

(This is the same bolt circle as many of the late model Jeeps, Ford Ranger/ Explorer, older Ford and Mopar passenger cars, etc)

[Burgerman]

They will definitely fit. And not hit the suspension. I think. But will likely hit the door as it opens. Bolt circle is correct. But offset isnt always correct, and tyre is 10mm wider than mine. Ant its extremely close to that door...

That car is crying out for a big V8 and a heavy shot of http://www.nitrous.info

And yes I ripped a 1.6 litre 4 pot out of my car, fitted an alloy 4.5 litre V8 and 140bhp of nitrous. Went really well and growled. Play... http://www.burgerman.info/images/V8.wav It wasnt quiet, had tons of compression, was a blueprinted motor... Car looked pretty stock. So surprised many boy racers as it left them in tyre smoke and went sideways in the first 3 gears.



And with C11 still left on the side window after the drag racing earlier in the day...



Didnt look much, didnt handle, wouldnt stop, but didnt half go when you hit the gas! Note my early helicopter flying practice in the mid 90s here too!

[dannos85]

Hey all, Just found these on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... TQ:GB:1123

They may fit an Entervan? But im unsure if they will clear the suspension.
I would jump at this deal if i did not already have my 18's

Hi
Turns out my set of 18's is not complete GUTTED!
I went to a tyre shop to get the rubber put on, 3 wheels are 18" TYRES ON!
Got to the 4th... Its a 19"...
I have had them 3 months & never noticed, I bet the EBAY guy I got them from is Happy. Says he will find me an 18"... yeah right!

Anyways in my quest to find another 18" with 5x114.3 fitment, Id better attempt to sell this 19". The Price is silly i know, but im hoping to find a swap.

As well as being the wrong size, Even the PCD is wrong 100x5 (more scooby than Grand Voyager...)

Here is my ebay listing for the 19".
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... RK:MESE:IT

[dannos85]

Nice wheels here, suitable for Chrysler/Dodge Disabled Vehicles

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WOLFRACE-SHAR ... 43b107e16d

[Burgerman]

sAME WIDTTH/SIZE/OFFSET as I have now.

Looking for 20s / 9J and 40 (ish) offset at the moment. Hard to find, other than very expensive scooby fit rims from japan...

[dannos85]

Is it ok to put 245/50/r18 tyres
onto
18" x 7,5j Rims

whats the good and bad info i need to know?

Ive got 3 18x8,5 rims and struggling to find a 4th rim.
Im looking at puting my tyres on some 7,5j rims off a chrysler 300c as i know they'll fit my Entervan,
its just unclear to me weather or not everything will clear as im unsure what the offset is on 300c rims and what it means to how much they stick out on in the arches.. . lol

cheers.

[Burgerman]

Dunno about offset.

But... 245/50 - 18 ON A 7.5 rim wont look good. Look good on 8.5 or 9 wide. But 9 will not clear rear door, unless you go to 20 inch wheels.

[dannos85]

sAME WIDTTH/SIZE/OFFSET as I have now.

Looking for 20s / 9J and 40 (ish) offset at the moment. Hard to find, other than very expensive scooby fit rims from japan...

What about MOPAR 20's for a 300c?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-set-Genu ... 3a769da85c

[Burgerman]

When you go to 20s, you need 9 inch rims with the same tyre width as on a 8.5 inch rim and a 50 series tyre, as the tyre is lower profile.

So they are an inch too narrow. But more importantly they are et 24 I think, so they will stick out another 20mm. They will probably NOT fit since the rim is 1 inch narrower, saving only half the amount that you lose from the reduced offset, 12.5mm.

[dannos85]

After a long 19months getting my set of wheels complete they are finally fitted.





They are 18x8,5j with 245 50 18 Rubber.
My car is slightly different to Burgermans in as much as the space in my front wheel arches is smaller.
These things rub the inner panel on full steering lock, so having to steer the car a quarter turn less in tight spaces in either direction.

A bit of a pain, But here is the answer... Thankyou Ebay...






My local garage mechanic has confirmed the limiters can be fitted to the steering rack in under 30minutes a side & should be relitively easy when up on the ramps.

I hope they do the trick.

The quarter turn on the steering wheel was basicly tested with a flat cable-tie, sliding between the tyre & panel. A few milimetres difference.

[Burgerman]

Or a slim wheel spacer. That 245 50 18 tyre size is perfect on that van.

Tell me, what are the wheels actually from? Should anyone wish to order a set?

[dannos85]

Or a slim wheel spacer. That 245 50 18 tyre size is perfect on that van.

Tell me, what are the wheels actually from? Should anyone wish to order a set?

I got them through eBay

2 of them are a bit dull on passenger side & the 2 on the driver side are really shiney.

I contacted Chrysler for another shiney pair

Chrysler UK told me they are no longer available. (aparently FIAT have bought chrysler out & given startech the kick)

"STARTECH Monostar IV"
18"
8,5J x 18H2
ET35 OFFSET
114.3x5 PCD

There is a website http://www.startech.de/en.html

Or This http://cjd.startech.de/html/home.html

[dannos85]

TRY EBAY GERMANY

Dont blame me if you get lost in translation... LOL

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Startec ... 416134e6d1

These are a different size & ET offset may be wrong.

[Burgerman]

I dont do german but may be interested in those. ET is 10mm too outboard but I know a man with a lathe...

Do they ship to uk?

[dannos85]

Write your message in english on google translate, Then copy & paste the german translation to them. Ask if they speak english at the same time. Alot of german people will reply in english if they know the language.
Might be worth asking about ET35 as they might have some.


Look at these dodge rims
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Dodge-C ... 6rk%3D1%26

[dannos85]

I just found these, Very nice set of 4 split rims.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/4-x-STARTECH-Mon ... 416a9e2c47

Cant belive I did not spot them before now, £322.00 plus shipping thats about £65.00... What a bargain!

[Burgerman]

I cant read german. Will these ship to UK? And for four, and new?

If so I will buy them. 35ET means that they will likely need the mounting skimming by a few mm to miss the lower rear door with the lowered floor mod.

[dannos85]

I cant read german. Will these ship to UK? And for four, and new?

GOOGLE TRANSLATE RESULTS

GO FOR IT, THIS IS WHERE I GOT MY LAST 2 RIMS.

JUST SAY IN ENGLISH, TO USE EXTRA PARCEL TAPE... trust me.

You are bidding on 4 Wheels STARTECH Monostar IV 2-piece
Wheel size: 8.5 x 19 ET 35
PCD: 5 x 114.3
STARTECH Part Number: 242-859-35
STARTECH VK: 845,00 Euro per rim
eg suitable for Chrysler 300M, Voyager GS / RG
Condition: New
Delivery: 4 wheels with center caps, lug nuts, accounting and TÜV certificate

[dannos85]

35ET means that they will likely need the mounting skimming by a few mm to miss the lower rear door with the lowered floor mod.

Mine are the same width & ET, but 18's... They just miss by 1mm on driver side & 3mm on passenger side, when floor is lowered, there is a bit more room when floors lifted.
My rubber bushes in the leaf springs are a bit worn, thats why its a bit uneven at present. Getting new bushes next week.

[Burgerman]

4? new? ships to UK? Is it worth me buying a set? Need some tyres anyway, may as well get 19s. Was going to buy 20s but these are cheap at the moment. But may not be cheap at end.

Mune have 245 tyres now. And 42et. And doors actually touch just. Not all 145 tyres are the same width. 145 is a nominal width. Actual width varies. And gets wider with use over time as tyre carcase stretches slightly. So 1 or 3mm may not be enough one day soon. So you might need to skim a few mm off the centre of the wheel to miss the doors if:

Your tyres "spread" after a while. Mine have! Went from 3 or 4mm to zero in 10k miles. Or your next set of 245 tyres are wider than you have now. 235 tyres are another option as this saves 5mm nominally each side of the tyre. But loses 8mm ground clearance. So it may be hub machining by 3 or 4mm, about 25 uk pounds, or smaller rubber.

[Burgerman]

Interestingly 20 x 9 wheels with 42ET as used on a mitsubishi with 245 tyres hits nothing - just. Tested. Because as wheel diameter increases and tyre profile decreases the rim width needs to be wider for any given tyre size.

[dannos85]

On these Grand Voyagers / Grand Caravans
What should the wheel nuts be torqued up to on a torque wrench?

[Burgerman]

Not sure. Till it feels right. The paint softens/gives though and they get loose on some aftermarket wheels so needs re checking later.

[Burgerman]

Ordered 4 at 80 pounds each, two piece rims. Thats about 1/4 the price they normally cost? What gives.

19 X 8.5 and will have 245/45/19 runflat tyres.

[dannos85]

Awesome!
Well Done.

[Burgerman]

On a car

[dannos85]

So in about a week we might see them on your black car.
Will be good to see the outcome.

[dannos85]

It might be worth copper slipping all the screws & torquin them all up again. In years to come it will be really easy to get them apart for reconditioning.