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New chair soon frontier v6

Postby Bjcobb » 23 Nov 2012, 07:37

Hi, I have priced the frontier v6. It will cost me almost 9000.00 after ins pay. Need good one for rural outside area.
Does burgerman sell the ones he makes to Texas? Or does anyone know of someone here that makes them ?

It's a costly step and I want to choose wisely.

thank you much.

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Re: New chair soon frontier v6

Postby Burgerman » 23 Nov 2012, 10:56

No I sell nothing. I build my chairs for myself. I experiment in the interests of development. No two are the same.

They likely wouldnt suit you anyway. I do wonder about the cost of powerchairs though. I suspect that the real cost is about 1/3rd or less than the "forecourt" price. So fight for a real deal.
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Re: New chair soon frontier v6

Postby Bjcobb » 24 Nov 2012, 16:31

The power chair place is using a frontier base and a Amy system seating system. Is this normal and will it affect the price or the power chair quality. The insurance approved everything except the base. They Said group 3 approved and base is a group 4. So sounds like my out of pocket is 6000 more just for big tires.

Is the. Base worth that much more?

I wonder if I'm being not smart, but really want those big tires,

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Re: New chair soon frontier v6

Postby Swan T.W. » 24 Nov 2012, 16:43

Can't you just order the base with 3 inch tires and then change to the larger tires?
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Re: New chair soon frontier v6

Postby Burgerman » 24 Nov 2012, 17:59

Not unless you want a powerchair that is some 6 inches wider. Thats the result of buying a 26 inch wide chair, and swapping 3 inch tyres for 6 inch ones. You end up at a HUGE 32 inches width...
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Re: New chair soon frontier v6

Postby Swan T.W. » 24 Nov 2012, 18:49

I'm sure the x5 had this as an option.
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Re: New chair soon frontier v6

Postby Burgerman » 24 Nov 2012, 19:03

Oh yep. The X5 and V6 were designed narrow. So you can fit 6 inch turf tyres and end up at 29 inches. Or 28.5 with 145/70 - 6 all terrain.
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Re: New chair soon frontier v6

Postby Swan T.W. » 24 Nov 2012, 19:27

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Re: New chair soon frontier v6

Postby Burgerman » 24 Nov 2012, 19:39

Yes you can fit skinny wheels too. But then the casters and chair are still pretty wide and long. It was designed with motors that are pretty inboard so that when the all terrain tyres are fitted its 28 claimed, (28.5 measured here with a wall, a bit of wood and a taper measure) wide.
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Re: New chair soon frontier v6

Postby Swan T.W. » 24 Nov 2012, 20:00

[y Bjcobb on Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:31 am

The power chair place is using a frontier base and a Amy system seating system. Is this normal and will it affect the price or the power chair quality. The insurance approved everything except the base. They Said group 3 approved and base is a group 4. So sounds like my out of pocket is 6000 more just for big tires.

Is the. Base worth that much more?

I wonder if I'm being not smart, but really want those big tires,]
Just suggesting ordering the base with the narrow tires would keep it in the class 3 category and then switching to the wide ones would be a cheaper way.
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Re: New chair soon frontier v6

Postby Bjcobb » 24 Nov 2012, 20:20

I wish I were fix it smart like burgerman but I'm not.
I think the big price difference is for more than the big tires, it must be the base to a accomadate the big tires.

There is a big need for the big tires - country bumpy roads to be able to get outside .

But since the insurance is paying 15,000 and I will have to pay 9000.00 I wanted to ask you guys.

That's 24,0000 for this ride, I will have to hock the house.

I will ask about the tire switching tomorrow, would be nice if it was that simple.

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Re: New chair soon frontier v6

Postby Burgerman » 24 Nov 2012, 20:22

No clue about funding. But my BM2 cost me about 1700 uk pounds. (2700dollars?)
BM3 witrh roboteq, alloy split rims for tubeless fat tyres, and huge 3x bigger watt hours lithium pack, and roboteq control system worked out at about 2500 pounds? 3500 dollars?
My labour free, but parts all extortionate retail and one off...

So I think the price of powerchairs, esp in the US is completely crazy.
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Re: New chair soon frontier v6

Postby Lord Chatterley » 25 Nov 2012, 00:55

It's a huge chair - far too big for me - too many narrow doors and aisles. And too tall for me [6' 2"] through my Grand Voyager doorway.

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Re: New chair soon frontier v6

Postby ex-Gooserider » 25 Nov 2012, 09:59

Hate to say it, but I don't think that simply changing the wheel size will make a difference in the "group" that the chair goes in....

I'm not up on all the details, but the group has more to do with the speed and power capabilities of the base, and how many options it has for extra functions like tilt / recline / etc... The descriptions I've seen don't make any mention of wheel size.

I would also be very wary of the "mix & match" approach to making the chair. Unless you have special rehab seating needs that can ONLY be met by combining hardware, then IMHO you are better off sticking with the OEM seating. I'd want to know exactly WHY they aren't wanting to sell you an OEM seating equipped chair (i.e. is this something they have in stock and are trying to get rid of by selling it to you???)

As soon as you start combining, you have the potential of buck-passing and finger pointing games if there are any problems as each maker blames the other for "causing" the issue, and can use that as an excuse for getting nasty about any warranty claims, and so on... (IIRC there was also an issue in an earlier thread where a user was having axle problems with a Frontier chair, and the claim was made that his weight plus the aftermarket seating was overloading the chair - but his weight alone was well within the ratings for the OEM chair - no comment on how replacing the OEM seat with a similar weight aftermarket seat caused an overload...)

If nothing else, I'd insist on a WRITTEN letter from each manufacturer of the parts going into the combined chair that it was an approved combination / application, and how any warranty issues would be handled...

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Re: New chair soon frontier v6

Postby sin85 » 08 Jan 2013, 13:45

For that money you could get Meyra Optimus 2 with all the bells and whistles and still have around $10000 to spare, and in my opinion would get better chair with greater range. but i am not sure you could buy meyra in the US
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