rnet dongle

[wheeliechair]

How do you tell if a dongle is OEM level or a lower level?

[Burgerman]

See if you can adjust a few engineering settings like Motor Compensation, or Temperature or stall foldback settings. If you can, it is. If not its not...

[wheeliechair]

I don't have the dongle yet I just wanted to know if there was anyway to tell by looking at the sticker on the back of the dongle? I want to make sure I get the right one.

[woodygb]

PGDT list a

R-net PC Prg OEM OEM access PC Programmer

and

R-net PC Prg Dealer Dealer/Therapist access PC Programmer

I'm not sure if there is also a specific dongle to match the software.

I have however seen reference to a dealer dongle ...

DONGLE R-NET PROGRAMING DEALER

http://amysystems.com/media/parts-manua ... AMMERS.pdf

[ICEUK]

I have the oem dongle and it looks identical to your link woody, hmmm

[Burgerman]

http://www.pgdt.com/Products/Programmer ... ammer.aspx

--Top one = dealer (and therapist, same thing)

--Bottom one = OEM level. Which does everything.

The dongles are probably just be programmed with a different key.

[woodygb]

I have the oem dongle and it looks identical to your link woody, hmmm

Check the number on the back.

D50609 seems to be dealer level.

[Burgerman]

609 and 612 are both dealer level. One for On Board Programming, one for PC.

[wheeliechair]

I have the oem dongle and it looks identical to your link woody, hmmm

Does your dongle have an A with a box around it on the back sticker?

[woodygb]

PGDT label their programming software levels as.....
A Dealer level access
B OEM level access
C Manufacturer level access

http://www.pgdt.com/Products/Programmer ... ammer.aspx

This might also apply to the dongle .

[ICEUK]

I have the oem dongle and it looks identical to your link woody, hmmm

Does your dongle have an A with a box around it on the back sticker?

it has B in the box it's a OEM dongle

[Burgerman]

We have a winner!

Now if we clone the dongle or at least the code we can all be winners.

[Red Dragon]

what is better the oem or the manufacturer level access ?

[Burgerman]

Once upon a time there used to be A B and C levels
A User/Dealer
B Engineering
C OEM or O E Manufacturing.
And a few others, as well as custom ones, and branded ones...

With the advent of R-Net we have Dealer, or OEM. And various ways to get Dealer level, inc PC based and On Board Programming. (OBP)
OEM (Manufacturing) is PC based only. And harder to get.

[ex-Gooserider]

what is better the oem or the manufacturer level access ?

In theory the "C" level "manufacturer" level is best, but for our needs the "B" or "OEM" level is just as good...

As I understand it, the Manufacturer level refers to P&G's own internal software that gets into fine tuning the inner workings of the hardware. OEM level is what is supplied to the chair manufacturers, to allow them to tailor the controllers to the specifics of their own chairs...

In practice, I'd expect all the controllers coming out of P&G to have been run through the manufacturer software to test them and make them as identical as possible - but that all the chair makers would get the same settings and configuration. (so would you if you were to get a system straight from P&G) My guess is that because of manufacturing tolerances there probably would be slight variations in the way different modules worked, and the manufacturing software serves to "tune out" those differences and make all the modules perform the same (and more importantly both channels in a given module the same)

The chair maker then takes the level B, OEM software and sets each controller to match the chair that it's being used in... What we want to fix is only the things the chair manufacturer changed so that level is all we need...

ex-Gooserider

[Burgerman]

C is OEM.

A User/Dealer
B Engineering
C OEM or O. E. Manufacturing. (C MAN or Manufacturing)

But B or engineering is all we need. C doesn't do much extra in addition. But we have C already.

[steves1977uk]

Just to update this thread, some versions of the R-Net software allows the Engineering menu with an OEM dongle, so in theory that's the same level access as the Manufacturing version for the Pilot+, VSI, VR2 etc...

Steve

[Burgerman]

No. All changed. Theres the two we know about, and a third we dont... A more complex one, I presume. As theres a lot of things that are missing in the OEM version compared to say the service level tool from Dynamic. Like the ability to set up the battery meter - voltages, high, low, averaging, etc.

[Burgerman]

If it says A on R-net dongle its dealer.
If it says B on it its OEM...
There exists a C version or some other means if you happen to be PG Drives, but never seen one outside of their headquarters. But we dont need it anyway.

Heres the thing. You can do everything you want, including installing OEM level programming settings even with the A version.