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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby steves1977uk » 11 May 2016, 16:39

I solved it by copying the CCS I had saved on my data drive back to where it's stored on the C: drive and now works as it should. Send me a copy of your setup.exe please expresso.

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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby expresso » 11 May 2016, 17:29

thats strange - i didnt do anything special - i just went to the website - downloaded there software link and installed it - thats it

tell me if this works - i think this is the setup i used -

Maybe its a windows config. issue ? :lol:

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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby steves1977uk » 11 May 2016, 17:46

Same thing with your setup.exe expresso, only allows upto 3.30v on the A123 high power preset which we use modified. Try opening the PL8 CCS and select preset 10 on your desktop PC. The first Lipo preset allows upto 4.10v on the Balance tab, but not the A123 high power preset.

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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby expresso » 11 May 2016, 17:53

ok your right - if i select preset 10 - it starts at 3V up to 3.3V

but i dont get the problem anyway - if you can pick any preset and make any changes you want to it - then dont worry about it - use the first preset which has all the options there - make the changes to that one - name it and save it

unless i am missing something ?


WAIT - now i just checked again - preset 10 and it does show it 3V to 4.10V make sure you click it good - or double click it and check again
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby expresso » 11 May 2016, 17:58

i did it again and now it dosnt show it - i am confused also now
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby steves1977uk » 11 May 2016, 17:59

Ah but now if you plug in the PL8 in your desktop PC, it will say you have errors and won't charge until they are corrected. Try it and you'll see what I mean. Just connect the PL8 and switch it on, you don't have to start a charge. And it won't update the Library Presets either.

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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby expresso » 11 May 2016, 18:07

steves1977uk wrote:I solved it by copying the CCS I had saved on my data drive back to where it's stored on the C: drive and now works as it should. Send me a copy of your setup.exe please expresso.

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if thats the case - thats very strange - maybe i am missing something also and dont get it till i go use it -

i dont understand why this program just dosnt download like any other one - normally you download a program and you got it on the computer thats it - you always have it - but with this - you really never do - it always has to check in to there servers to install it etc, -

so now i have to figure out how to get the working copy off my laptop and install that one on my desktop ? if in fact its not correct on my desktop - - which i am sure of just yet -

if i had my presets that BM made for me - they are fine - so its not a big deal either way - its only a problem if you want to start from scratch with a brand new preset -? thats what i am understanding - i though each preset it just a generic preset they give you - and you can make the changes to any of them to your liking - if thats the case - then just use preset 1 - and make the changes to that one - does it matter which you use ?
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby steves1977uk » 11 May 2016, 18:17

Any presets that are based on the A123 ones will NOT WORK NOW. Only solution is to take a copy of CCS off your lappy and copy it to a different directory.

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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby expresso » 11 May 2016, 18:41

you may be right - i did get one error n ow i just checked

what your saying is this - Even if i use the Presets BM made for me - those wont work ?

on my laptop i dont see a folder for this program - where it installed etc, - i am not sure how i would copy it from the laptop to the desktop -

if this is a real problem - they should be told about it and it should be fixed ? did you call them to let them know -

i can call but not sure what i am explaining to them to be exact
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby steves1977uk » 11 May 2016, 18:42

Further investigation reveals there's a difference in the CCS checksums... The CHGM8Sv2old.exe is the prior version before I upgraded to Win 10, this one allows the Balance voltage to be up to 3.50v on the A123 presets, whereas the CHGM8Sv2new.exe don't allow it which is the version I downloaded today.

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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby Burgerman » 11 May 2016, 18:52

Must be a mistake. You should post this on that forum.

Since the charger allows this. I imagine that somhow the older version has got back on the server.
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby steves1977uk » 11 May 2016, 18:55

expresso wrote:you may be right - i did get one error n ow i just checked

what your saying is this - Even if i use the Presets BM made for me - those wont work ?

on my laptop i dont see a folder for this program - where it installed etc, - i am not sure how i would copy it from the laptop to the desktop -

if this is a real problem - they should be told about it and it should be fixed ? did you call them to let them know -

i can call but not sure what i am explaining to them to be exact


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If BM has modified an A123 preset for you to charge your pack, then that won't work with the new CCS, but will work with the old one.

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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby expresso » 11 May 2016, 18:59

Ok - i see it now - yeah its a problem - you cant copy the same presets done under A123 - over to the others - they are a few options that are not there to pick from - charging speeds is one of them - the max you can charge is 10A

thats the least of it anyway - theres a few other sections - like termination - - balance volt start etc, - so there is a problem then - i just tried calling them - no answer - maybe they are on lunch ?

i dont understand why this is complicated in the first place - if the software worked before - why cant they just go back to a working program and leave it alone ??

by luck now i have it working on the laptop - and thats where i charge anyway - but i dont like not having it work on anything else - this needs to get resolved soon i hope -

now i have to figure out how to get a working copy off the laptop and on to the desktop - this never ends - as soon as i finished with one problem - another pops up - finally got the cable issue fixed - thanks to Woody and his very well made Cable -

battery packs all done - thanks to Scollard - and everyone else who chipped in - got Win 10 done right - legit - thanks to BM and Steve and now this - i cant relax anymore -
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby steves1977uk » 11 May 2016, 19:00

Must be a mistake. You should post this on that forum.


I will BM, obviously they're linking to an older version of CCS :? Did you try the copy of CCS I sent you?

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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby Burgerman » 11 May 2016, 19:03

No. Busy laid on my side typing on a laptop with one finger trying not to let it fall off the bed here...
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby expresso » 11 May 2016, 19:05

Ok Now Can you explain to me - With out being a Tech Wiz here and in simple terms -

how can i get the working copy from my laptop over to the desktop also - ?

whats the simple dumb down way to get this done with out having to go to 4 years of school :)
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby steves1977uk » 11 May 2016, 19:22

expresso wrote:Ok Now Can you explain to me - With out being a Tech Wiz here and in simple terms -

how can i get the working copy from my laptop over to the desktop also - ?

whats the simple dumb down way to get this done with out having to go to 4 years of school :)


Haha expresso :lol: It's easy... On the laptop browse to the directory C:\Users\<your profile>\AppData\Local\Apps\2.0\, in there you'll find a directory with random numbers and letters. Double click on the folders that follows until you come to one that has CHGM8Sv2.exe in it. This is the file you need to copy to your desktop PC, in the same place.

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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby expresso » 11 May 2016, 19:25

ok so i find that exe. file - copy it on a thumb drive - then take it on the desktop - find the same location and copy it back in there - delete the one thats there and put this one - or just copy over it - it if it overwrites it -

which ever way is fine - i have to try it and do it - dont like having just one working program only -
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby steves1977uk » 11 May 2016, 19:28

No. Busy laid on my side typing on a laptop with one finger trying not to let it fall off the bed here...


Ugh, that sucks BM :( You must be going crazy not being able to get about and do things!

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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby steves1977uk » 11 May 2016, 19:31

expresso wrote:ok so i find that exe. file - copy it on a thumb drive - then take it on the desktop - find the same location and copy it back in there - delete the one thats there and put this one - or just copy over it - it if it overwrites it -

which ever way is fine - i have to try it and do it - dont like having just one working program only -


Just overwrite it :D

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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby expresso » 11 May 2016, 20:05

Ok i just did it - and it didnt work for me - so what am i missing here - ?

Can i delete everything in the 2.0 folder - uninstall it and try it again

i uninstalled it and reinstalled it - but its the same thing - dosnt work - i noticed there are two folders in the 2.0 folder - both had the same exe. file - i copied over both of them -

still didnt work for me - whats my next step - or maybe i missed a step along the way ?
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby expresso » 11 May 2016, 20:24

http://www.usastore.revolectrix.com/...

Ok i just got off the phone with them - this is the first they heard of -- i tried to explain it - and he believes its not the software - etc, - i explained it again - so what everyone could do - is call there support line - and let them know -

the more call - - the better - so they can really look into it - he suggested i try the charger alone with out the software connected and see if that works fine - i told him - i charged yesterday - or day before and it worked fine on the laptop software

now on the desktop which is new software i just installed - its gives you the error - and some options are not there - which are there on the old software - he wants me to first check the charger alone - i just used it - i dont have to charge anything yet -

i never used the charger alone - and dont like to use the buttons on top to scroll etc, - have to figure that out too now -

steve - give them a call since you can explain it better than me -

wonder why it didnt work for me on the desktop after i overwrote the exe. file
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby Burgerman » 11 May 2016, 20:24

You dont half make simple things complicated.
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby Burgerman » 11 May 2016, 20:53

Just drop the folder that I posted a link to yesterday, onto your desktop. Thats it. Good to go.

They will fix it anyway when they get around to it.
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby expresso » 11 May 2016, 21:14

i got the folder you linked too - its on my desktop -


what do you mean good to go now - i start the program and its the same way - ? do i have to start the program from within the folder you gave me ?


Ahh ok i think i got it - i have to use the program in the folder you sent me -
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby steves1977uk » 11 May 2016, 21:21

expresso wrote:steve - give them a call since you can explain it better than me -


Can't do that I'm afraid for 2 reasons, 1) I don't have a good speaking voice and 2) It would cost a bomb to phone the USA.

Use the software BM posted a link to, it's the same thing.

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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby expresso » 11 May 2016, 21:23

Burgerman wrote:Just drop the folder that I posted a link to yesterday, onto your desktop. Thats it. Good to go.

They will fix it anyway when they get around to it.


ok i think that way does work with the presets you made for me - no errors - but there own presets - you cant change the termination to manual - etc, - maybe a few other settings - but dosnt matter as long as the presets you made for me which i need to use work - thats all that matters -

well if no one tells them theres a issue - they wont fix it - i was told i am the first to bring that up to them and they never heard of this problem before - if he even believed me that there is one -

i feel better now - :D
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby expresso » 11 May 2016, 21:26

Burgerman wrote:You dont half make simple things complicated.



its a little scary if i cant use the software to charge - but simple fix with the folder you linked here - i am good now - -
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Re: Step by step lithium conversion?

Postby expresso » 11 May 2016, 21:29

steves1977uk wrote:
expresso wrote:steve - give them a call since you can explain it better than me -


Can't do that I'm afraid for 2 reasons, 1) I don't have a good speaking voice and 2) It would cost a bomb to phone the USA.

Use the software BM posted a link to, it's the same thing.

Steve


oh ok - i though maybe they had a different number on there overseas site - - what i do if i have to call overseas etc, - i always use a calling card - i get small ones - 2 dollar cards - for those times - but in this case you shouldnt have to do that for one time you may use the card -

a email to them from you should do it - i am not even going to try the charger alone - i know that works already - so i can call them back and tell them again - its not the charger - its the software -
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