Muslims and why Trump is right

[hobie1dog]

The problem is ALWAYS religion and ignorance which is the same thing.

Can I use that quote? You have such a way with direct communication. Now if we only had a choice of, John Burgerman for President, instead of the 2 repulsive humans that I just cannot bring myself to vote for.

I would like to know the story behind the photo on that above site, which shows the circle of people with their backs to the woman on the ground.

[Burgerman]

You can. Watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

[JoeP]

There may be short term pain in Brexit but controlling your borders is well worth it.

[JoeP]

You can. Watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

WTF.
What is it with Europe and this multiculturalism baloney? Europe is making one heck of a big mistake.
It had better tighten up those borders.

[Burgerman]

Yes. But the EU wont let them or us... And Merkel (German Prime Minister) said they are all welcome. They took 2 million recently! Hence those with any clue, voted to LEAVE the EU here in the UK.

[Burgerman]

This guy is funny!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yc8eYCt9no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K7YXaNw2CU

[Burgerman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElucFAcqz-A

Trump, america, truth, political correctness.

[JoeP]

comments?

‘I’ve Become a Racist’: Migrant Wave Unleashes Danish Tensions Over Identity

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/06/world ... paper&_r=0

[hobie1dog]

You can. Watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

After watching the video, the statistics show that there will be nothing the world can do to stop them from overtaking the rest of us(even if the birth rates are somewhat inaccurate ). Makes me very sad to think what the world will be like for my grandchildren.
I wish I would have visited Europe earlier in my life, but now would not be comfortable doing so. And just as I was going to put on my Bucket List " meet the infamous John Burgerman "

[Burgerman]

The politically corrects, leftist, multicultural governments and media like TV have instilled a thing that allows the muslims to laugh at up. Its called freedom of speech that isn't! You are free, as long as you are NEVER racist. We are told that multiculturalism is a marvellous thing.

We are never allowed to say we don't want our towns and cities to change, to lose their identities. Because we then ged branded RACIST! That most terrible of things. Another terrorist, bomb, murder, rape, by a citizen, who is an extremist, radicalist, or mentally disturbed member of society? Almost always muslim. But they do everything possible to never mention this. And if you do you are RACIST! Even though that's not a race.

Well I am racist, if not wanting our overcrowded cities to degenerate into unrecognisable violent slums is racist. And cant stand ANY religion as its all equally crazy, any woo, spiritual or magical thinking, or similar in any shape or form. Its all harmful and affects the sane members of society. But muslims are by far the worst. And we are inviting them in, while totally ignoring everything they stand for for politically correct reasons.

They always wait till theres a majority and then turn wherever they are, into the place they escaped from.

Go take a look at what used to be Sweden. Its now gone.

[Sully]

John, This is a shell game and you are losing sight of the pea. Division of the proper direction of where that pea is and is going must stay in your sight.

I believe there are more than three shells in play and you are only watching two shells.

[Burgerman]

Whats the 3rd?

[Sully]

There are always three walnut shells in "the shell game" and only one pea under one of them. This one has more than the standard amount.

[Burgerman]

There are already literally millions of Muslims already here in the EU. And in most countries. Mrs merkel invited an extra 2+ million of them SO FAR into Germany alone. With plenty more coming continually without end. So now that the dictatorship that is the EU has ignored the NO vote (as expected and predicted) and introduced open borders everywhere (the Lisbon treaty) via the back door, they are all now free to spread and ruin all the civilised western countries and drag them all down to their level. Much like they have in Sweden and other places.

HERES THE REAL PROBLEM. Islam isn't like other religions. But gets treated like one with all the crazy protection from hate speech etc. Its evil, its totalitarian. Its the true word of their god they think, and it instructs them directly to kill all those that are not true complete believers. That's you, and everyone that isn't an isis style muslim. That's why they are endlessly killing each other (wrong type), xstians, athiests, and anyone that's not true islam. Its why they throw gays off roofs, behead each other, blow up or torture children, abuse women, etc. So unlike Christianity, it really is violent, and threatening and totalitarian. So while you do get moderate muslims. There is no moderate version of islam. It should be treated as what it is. An invasion. One they admit to doing.

Worse, polls for decades show that in the WEST that 60 percent or more YOUNGER muslims agree with all the violence, sharia law, etc. even if they don't blow up or murder you themselves. And that most of the extreme behaviour, that ends up as rape and death, no go areas like in Sweden only materialises once theres enough of them in one place. But STILL we never say the problem is muslims. Its violence, rape, etc. Nobody dare see that elephant. So since they have an average of EIGHT children compared to the wests 1.2 to 1.8 per family, expect this to happen soon even if we stop letting more in now.

Trump has seen the elephant. But you are never allowed to SAY so. Because you get called racist. Even though the elephant is not a race.

However I am not racist. I am very religionist. All woo is dangerous end needs stamping out.

[Sully]

I am bigoted and prejudiced especially against Islamists. I will admit that further, I am pretty much of an anti-religionist (agnostic) all that those things mean. But I do understand, that as an old man I have no real power to change the way things seem to be going. While Trump is probably right and he is saying what many think they want to hear. He is a typical bull in a china store, he says anything he thinks will cause a stir. Sensationalism one of his despicable traits I particularly despise.

His most famous saying is "Trust me"--- " F--- no never"!

I try to cause y'all to find some way that will not cause disruption in our Nation. I fear I am on the losing side on this one, there are few, if any ways to get out of this mess in a peaceful manner.

[Burgerman]

I am bigoted and prejudiced especially against Islamist's. I will admit that further, I am pretty much of an anti-religionist (agnostic) all that those things mean.

Thats pretty mild considering that true Islamic believers want to KILL you.
Make no mistake, that IS the ultimate aim of Islam.

The truthful ones will tell you so. But only once there are enough in any given place. The sooner the rest will admit its a religious issue and not just the odd terrorist/problem individual/jihadists/radicalized oddballs/extremists/mentally ill and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT the better chance we have.

We have to admit the problem and get rid of them from our countries. The problem isn't RADICAL Islam, its just Islam. Its ALL radical.

No mosques, invites to refugees, no immigration from mostly Muslim countries ir Muslims at all, deport any that are here that don't integrate and swear allegiance, etc. There isn't a choice. Its essential or the way of life we have is going to be gone in a few years. To be replaced with what we see in the middle east now.

And all religion affects the world in often disgusting ways, inc xstianity and it needs to be wiped out one way or another. The internet, education, science seems to be doing that for the young, and the 'moderates' that don't really believe or cherry pick their bible stories. And the old are dying off. So the west is mostly pretty free of it other than the US. Even there are signs.

[Burgerman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LBpmPXv1R4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAAq2EQLBkY

Reality! This guy gets it.

Islamaphobia is what the governments and leftist media people, accuse you of if you dare suggest muslims are dangerous.

Islama phobia is a sensible attitude! Because you SHOULD be scared. What's more the name is wrong. Because phobia means IRRATIONAL fear. And there's nothing irrational about it.

[hobie1dog]

This thread has forever changed me. I cannot look at the Muslim women who walk around the apartment complex and feel the same way as before. I feel that 99% of americans have absolutely no idea what it going on in this world, haven't seen the first video of a beheading, seen no statistics, totally oblivious to the threat to global society the rest of the countries are going through. I still don't think either candidate will make any difference in the amount of Muslims that infiltrate the USA. Seems that the Corporations that own Congress and the Senate, and likely tell the president what to do, will allow the system to keep progressing down the hell hole. If i thought that there was one topic that one of the candidates could make happen and change the course of history, then i would likely vote. So very frustrating.

[Burgerman]

It certainly is to me. But the moronic politically correct and westernized multi-culturalists that think all religions are basically the same are the ill informed vast majority. Anyone attempting to enlighten them, is labeled as some Islamophobic/racist right wing case.

So until its obvious to the vast majority that they were overrun and out of control, they will continue to spread and infiltrate the west. Because we refuse to actually believe what they themselves are telling us! But these idealists will never be able to stand up and ban a complete religion. To do so means admitting tat their crazy religious rights 'everyone has the right to have an imaginary friend' bullshit was wrong. Which it obviously is to any atheist.

So sit back safe in the knowledge that no amount of facts will persuade the governments. And watch it all happen.

[Burgerman]

A mosque at ground zero? Really? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjS0Novt3X4

[Burgerman]

I just figured it all out!

There are radical Muslims and moderate Muslims:
A radical Muslim wants to behead you!
A moderate Muslim wants a radical Muslim to behead you.

[Burgerman]

On the news. 3 syrian men arrested in france with links to terrorism. 3 arrested in germany, with muslim names, in connection with last years paris attacks. And one in the UK with muslim name and trying to buy bomb making materials and guns for a 'terror attack'. All reported separately, 3 seperate stories. They used the term terrorist, etc but very carefully never mentioned MUSLIM once in 10 mins of reports.

We cant mention muslim because that might offend muslims. And we would then be racist, even though its not a race. And we know that of all the countless terrorist attacks over the last few years, every one has been muslim.

[Burgerman]

And its happening in china too! 30 Min TV Documentary. Bombs, stabbings, fires, driving cars through pedestrians as in France. But the Chinese are not as stupid as the politically correct west. And clamping down on them.

The commentator is of course a leftist on the side of the Muslims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5IwwnP5e78

[Sully]

I don't think that not calling the Muslim terrorists is a way of our governments not losing total control of the mass population, when in fact this disguising of actual facts only makes it all worse. Remember Governments are intended to keep the peace, maintain normalcy, its good for commerce. They fear hate repraisals, across all these nations where some of these people have taken root. Perhaps one day they will just stand back and just let nature take its course.

Look I am in most conditions about as liberal as they come. Live and let live sort of guy. But Nobody; but Nobody, will drive me into their way of thinking if I don't wish it.

You can blame leftists if you want, but all this is doing is pisssing everyone off, we are being divided one against the other as enemies, liberals against the conservatives. This is the divide and conquer technique, when we allow this we all lose, and each of us will lose our ways of life as well as our Nations. Don't fall into this trap.

[Burgerman]

Look I am in most conditions about as liberal as they come. Live and let live sort of guy. But Nobody; but Nobody, will drive me into their way of thinking if I don't wish it.

Once there's enough, and they have infiltrated, out-bred you, weaseled their way into your society, got the whole country to be terrified of insulting their crazy ideals, with lots of special exceptions made for them, they don't give you a 'choice'. They slit throats, behead, throw you off buildings, or whatever the most violent or bloodthirsty method they can think up. Go take a look at any of their own countries for proof. They wont be asking if you wish anything. Gradually they will just take over because the governments and political elites, media, will not face up to the MUSLIM reality.

A huge battle or mess and lots of death will eventually ensue in all civilized countries when the masses see the problem - but too late - or they will be lost to ignorant violent rapidly breeding Islamic immigrants whose totalitarian religion wants you dead. Like Sweden or Holland.

They are 'offended' at everything. And start with the threats. The media have now started referring to the Christmas tree or xmas holidays etc to 'festive tree. or festive holiday. To please the Muslims. Same with alcohol. They are 'offended' by seeing people drink alcohol. Even MacDonald and supermarkets do halal food and dont say so. So we have to buy food, that had to die in pain and panic to suit their damned delusion..

[Burgerman]

They fear hate repraisals, across all these nations where some of these people have taken root. Perhaps one day they will just stand back and just let nature take its course.

Inevitable. But the SOONER we block the immigrants entry, start looking very carefully at whats here, deporting all that dont integrate and throw out all that dont the less death and destruction in the end. Look at their OWN countries. They kill each other literally by the million, torture and abuse women, and remove all freedoms in society creating hell that they all want to escape from. Driven BY their stupid religion. So they head for our free countries, then try and turn them into exactly what they ran away from.

You can blame leftists if you want, but all this is doing is pisssing everyone off, we are being divided one against the other as enemies, liberals against the conservatives. This is the divide and conquer technique, when we allow this we all lose, and each of us will lose our ways of life as well as our Nations. Don't fall into this trap.

But by hiding or presenting Muslims as just a normal religion, and trying to show all the rapists, murderers, radicalists, terrorists, etc as being a minority of lunatics they are causing the problem. If they told it how it is, we wouldn't stand for having this backward violent ideology in our society at all. The politically correct call everyone racist if you say you cant stand Muslims. But its not a race!

This is true here now. But its sanitised and most are not reported as anything other than an attack, or a mentally disturbed individual. They hide names because then its obvious, and never mention muslims...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4FpTvp0tgs
And the US version!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ff3Qg6B_WY

Ground zero mosque? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjS0Novt3X4
What do you think about this?

[Lord Chatterley]

They have a theory - all the wealth in the West was stolen by white men from brown men so it's OK for brown men to take it all back and kill the white men and enslave the white women, apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPKqM-TV2i8

Von Mises took a different view of the enormous quantities of capital exported from the West:

Mahatma Gandhi expresses a loathing for the devices of the petty West and of devilish capitalism. But he travels by railroad or by motor car and, when ill, goes for treatment to a hospital equipped with the most refined instruments of Western surgery. It does not seem to occur to him that Western capital alone made it possible for the Hindus to enjoy these facilities.

The enormous transfer of capital from Western Europe to the rest of the world was one of the outstanding events of the age of capitalism. It has developed natural resources in the remotest areas. It has raised the standard of living of peoples who from time immemorial had not achieved any improvement in their material conditions. It was, of course, not charity but self-interest which pushed the advanced nations to the export of capital. But the profit was not unilateral; it was mutual. The once backward nations have no sound reason to complain because foreign capitalists provided them with machinery and transportation facilities.

Yet in this age of anti-capitalism hostility to foreign capital has become general. All debtor nations are eager to expropriate the foreign capitalist. Loans are repudiated, either openly or by the more tricky means of foreign exchange control. Foreign property is liable to discriminatory taxation which reaches the level of confiscation. Even undisguised expropriation without any indemnification is practiced.

There has been much talk about the alleged exploitation of the debtor nations by the creditor nations. But if the concept of exploitation is to be applied to these relations, it is rather an exploitation of the investing by the receiving nations.

These loans and investments were not intended as gifts. The loans were made upon solemn stipulation of payment of principal and interest. They were made in the expectation that property rights would be respected.

With the exception of the bulk of the investments made in the United States, in some of the British dominions, and in some smaller countries, these expectations have been disappointed.

Bonds have been defaulted or will be in the next few years. Direct investments have been confiscated or soon will be.
The capital-exporting countries can do nothing but wipe off their balances.

LC

[Burgerman]

An imam and his assistant were shot dead as they walked along a street in the New York borough of Queens.
The men were approached from behind by a man who shot them both in the head, a police spokesman said.
Imam Maulama Akonjee, 55, moved to the city from Bangladesh two years ago, US media reported.
Some mosque-goers said they believed it was a hate crime but police said there was as yet no evidence that the men were targeted because of their faith.

Thats what they always say...

The jury in the trial of a man accused of murdering an imam has retired to consider its verdict.
Jalal Uddin, 71, died after suffering head injuries in an attack in a children's play area in Rochdale.
Mohammed Hussain Syeedy, 21, of Ramsay Street, Rochdale, denies murder and being the getaway driver for Mohammed Kadir, 24, who is alleged to have killed Mr Uddin, in February.

Manchester Crown Court has heard claims they hated the imam's form of Islam.
The prosecution alleged they believed Mr Uddin was performing "black magic" because of his practising of Ruqya healing, which involves the use of amulets known as taweez.

Another two...

[hobie1dog]

They fear hate repraisals, across all these nations where some of these people have taken root. Perhaps one day they will just stand back and just let nature take its course.

Ground zero mosque? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjS0Novt3X4
What do you think about this?

The proposed mosque was scrapped due to public opposition in 2013, and there are now plans for a high rise condominiums.

[Burgerman]

Just been watching the new york bombs. On BBC news. They talk of terrorism, isis, links, and stabbings, etc. Not once was the elephant in the room mentioned. That word they are terrified of saying. Muslim... They do get it, they never say it. It will be people, radicalized, mental illness, terrorists, and all the rest. Do your media outlets avoid saying the Muslim word too? Its about time they said it, and got rid of it.