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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby rustyjames » 19 Sep 2016, 20:41

That is correct, they continue to side step the cold, hard facts. As if by not stating the obvious that it'll be ok and go away.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 19 Sep 2016, 21:53

It may be the right. Or it may be something else. Statistically, however its likely to be Muslims. Even though they are just 1% of the US.

Rape, no go areas, abuse and filth on the streets. Fear of normal citizens to walk in some areas, theft, and such things as peeing on the streets. All common now in germany since mrs merkel opened the doors and invited another 2 million of them in. The right and the likes of the nazi party are on the rise. And mrs merkel is about to get voted out of government by the people who are sick of it. Most of the rest of the EU are much the same.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 19 Sep 2016, 23:38

So as predicted, a muslim... That was hard.

Live New York bombings: Ahmad Khan Rahami in custody after shootout – live
As police captured an Afghan-born suspect they believe is linked to attacks in New York and New Jersey, the Democratic presidential nominee urged a targeted approach rather than Trump’s call for blanket immigration restrictions.

“We are going to have to go after the bad guys and we are going to get them, but we are not going to go after an entire religion and give Isis exactly what it is wanting,” Clinton told reporters at a press conference outside New York City.


But isis IS the religion. The name is a slight clue. Islamic State. Islam is the religion. There are some Muslims that ignore their book. Those are called moderate Muslims. (Although many of these wont kill you, around 40 percent AGREE with it!) There are moderate Muslims, but Islam is not a moderate religion. If a moderate one wants to leave the penalty is death. And the non moderate ones have been killing and torturing and beheading, knifing, blowing up, throwing off roofs, the moderate ones for centuries. Thats why you don't see any peace in the middle east ever. Even in their own countries.

The bit in red is why they never mention that massive elephant that all the people have already spotted. Its why the media always show muslims in a suite in the city. Rather than the ones you or I see in no go zones or dressed in bags, or in big groups terrorizing their areas where they do not live as we do...

Hence this!!!

Some facts about muslims/islam http://nfse.co.uk/?m=ShowNews&group=1&show=4795#4795

Worldwide the UN estimates there are:

1.6 billion Christians.
15 million Jews.
1.4 billion Muslims (Islam).


Terrorist attacks since 9/11 worldwide are:

Christians=0
Jews=0
Islam=25,544

The ‘religion’ of Love and Peace doesn't seem to live up to it's claim.

Not one single Islamic country, state, government allows a non-Muslim to be a president, premier, king, prince or leader. It is strictly forbidden in all their constitution type government documents whether following Sharia or not. It is specifically addressed.

More Muslims have been killed, raped, tortured, maimed, starved and displaced by other Muslims than any other force or cause.

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims'



Think of this:

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

However:

Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM


Which leads to:

They’re not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan



So, where are they happy?

They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India
They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!

Who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves... THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!! And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy.

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

AND A LOT MORE!!!!!!!

What muslims are told to do by their koran:

Kill any one who insults Islam or Moham-mad. (Koran.33;57-61).
Kill all Muslims who leave Islam. (Koran.2;217/4;89/Bukhari.9;84-57).
Koran can not be doubted. (Koran.2;1).
Islam is the only acceptable religion. (Koran.3;85).
Muslims must fight (jihad) to non-Muslims, even if they don't want to. (Koran.2;216).
We the non-Muslims are pigs and apes. (Koran. 2;62-65/Koran.5;59-60/Koran.7;166).
We the non-Muslims cannot be friends with Muslims. (Koran.5;51).
We the non-Muslims sworn enemies of Muslims and Islam. (Koran.4;101).
We the non-Muslims can be raped as sex slave. (Koran.4;3 & 24/5;89/23;5/33;50/58;3/70;30).
We the non-Muslims the vilest of creatures deserving no mercy. (Koran.98;6).
Muslim must terrorized us (non-Muslims). (Koran.8;12 &59-60/ Bukhari.4;52;220).
Muslims must strike terror into non-Muslims hearts. (Koran.8;60).
Muslims must lie to us (non-Muslims) to strengthen and spread Islam. (Koran.3;28?16;106).
Muslims are allowed to behead us (non_Muslims) (Koran.47;4).
Muslims are guaranteed to go to heaven if they kill us (non-Muslims). (Koran.9;111).
Marrying and divorcing pre-pubescent children is OK. (Koran.65;4).
Wife beating is OK. (Koran.4;34).
Raping wives is OK. (Koran.2;223).
Proving rape requires 4 (four) male Muslim witnesses. (Koran.24;13).
Muslims are allowed to crucify and amputate us (non-Muslims). Koran.8;12/47;4).


What does that tell you about islam?
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Lord Chatterley » 20 Sep 2016, 01:19

Never mind Muslims - Americans can't call a bomb - a bomb! :shock:

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 20 Sep 2016, 09:45

Muslims should never be associated with bombs. Even though its always Muslims.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby hobie1dog » 20 Sep 2016, 15:37

Seems more pictures are showing up on the web, but I still don't see why they would need to behead young children.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Lord Chatterley » 20 Sep 2016, 16:24

The problem is the Sira - the third sacred book of Islam.
Christianity is bad enough but its lead character was a pacifist.
The Sira which describes the life of Islam's alleged "prophet" Mohamet makes it abundantly clear that he was no pacifist - on the contrary, he was an extremely violent warlord.
When ISIS commit their ritual slaughters of innocents they are not doing anything that wasn't first practiced by Mohamet himself.
To understand Islam, you must know the life of Mohamet. Every Muslim’s desire is to live a life identical to his. His every word and deed are the perfect model for being a Muslim. The religion of Islam is not about worshiping God or Allah; it about worshiping Allah exactly as Mohammed did.
Failure to worship IN THE RIGHT WAY has always been a big issue in religion - when Moses brought the Ten Commandments for the Jews to follow his first act was to slaughter 3000 fellow Jews NOT for their failure to worship God but for their failure to worship God IN THE RIGHT WAY.
Of course, worshiping in the right way is tricky if the first commandment of your religion is - DO NOT THINK FOR YOURSELF.

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 22 Sep 2016, 19:08

I agree. And the current Syrian war, like all the others gone by, has about 3 main sides, or in fact 5 or 7 fragmented sides if you look deeper... ALL of it religion based and I do mean that this is the reason they are giving. NOT terrorism, or land, or money. . And all these groups hate each other, and the west. They are also scattered among the moderate believers, in various "strengths" of belief, in the mass of Syrians. As such there's no way to fight it, to wipe out one group or another, as they are all living together mixed up in various strengths of islamic belief from mostly ignored and read only the 'nice' bits, to death squads. Bombers, jihadists, etc. Even if you could wipe out the current isis members, more new muslims will replace them with another name and killing will go on. Its all a pointless unwinnable RELIGIOUS mess.

The only thing you can do is keep nuclear weapons away from them, and any Muslim country, (too late) and otherwise leave them to it and lock the borders and keep them out. Unless the religion itself is targeted there's no fix. Also too late in some countries.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby hobie1dog » 22 Sep 2016, 20:00

Burgerman wrote:
The only thing you can do is keep nuclear weapons away from them, and any Muslim country, (too late) and otherwise leave them to it and lock the borders and keep them out. Unless the religion itself is targeted there's no fix. Also too late in some countries.


Grim future for us all. Hillary just said she is not going after religion, just the terrorists She wouldn't want to offend anybody you know ;)
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 22 Sep 2016, 23:51

Hows she going to do that. The religion ARE the terrorists.

Have a quick scan of this. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages ... polls.aspx


She is doing what all the west and all the media and all the leftist, liberal, progressives do. She is trying to separate the obvious violence, and demands, and screams to give Muslims special privileges from the religion. Because she as a religious person in a religious country cannot bring herself to thing a religion can be evil. I think they all are. Because I have actually looked in detail.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Sully » 23 Sep 2016, 15:52

QUOTE;"She is doing what all the west and all the media and all the leftist, liberal, progressives do. She is trying to separate the obvious violence, and demands, and screams to give Muslims special privileges from the religion. Because she as a religious person in a religious country cannot bring herself to thing a religion can be evil. I think they all are. Because I have actually looked in detail.
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If you read some of the posts discussing this problem of both color and Islamics you mighr see many of the poster's do inclure those features in their posts.

You have a point you cannot seperate the person from the disease. The disease dominates the person, until it consumes the host ! Ideologies do not die, the live on and fester until the arise again like cancers. Te people of this planet, not simply one country or other, will soon enough see the problem as well as a workable solution to it. Until then we are on our own.

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 23 Sep 2016, 16:10

people of this planet, not simply one country or other, will soon enough see the problem as well as a workable solution to it. Until then we are on our own.


By the time this happens it will all be too late. They get at your country from the inside like a cancer. And spread fast. And do so because none of the rational people are allowed to voice an honest opinion without getting called Islamophobic, racist, etc by the media, mrs clinton, all the progressives etc. They don't understand the threat, and wouldn't admit there was one if their own child was gang raped and stabbed as happens in Sweden. Because they *know* a whole religion cant be evil... It must be a few bad apples. Even though EVERY honest muslim has been telling us this for decades. As has every terrorist as loudly as possible!

The whole civilized wold keeps harping on about "religious rights" the right to believe in any mumbo jumbo you want. Regardless of the fact that its crazy. This is ALL religion. One rule. They cannot see that its ALL crazy, and muslims should be subject to the same criticism, and the same ridicule as any other ridiculous claims anyone makes, without special treatment. We can get prosecuted here for daring to say its all crazy! Its called "hate speech" by the leftists etc. And every belief is treated the same. So we are forced to smile as evermore special rules are made for muslims.

Xstians already get some special treatments they certainly should not. E.G. tax exemption. Allowed to saw bits off kids genitals. Close shops on Sundays. And many more. Muslims have a slowly creeping case of special extra protection. Cartoons as free speech? Get murdered... The news programs CENSOR the ones that offended the Muslims and refuse to show them on TV... As a typical example. They have bullied the media into giving special treatment. They are forcing us to do what they want based on their particular form of crazy.

Wearing face masks in public, schools, banks, special permission or they threaten us... Riot, murder, blow people up. And we are daft enough to let them. In the US its a very low percentage right now. But they breed fast on purpose (commanded to by their koran) and spread fast. You have it all to come. And your political correctness will allow it to have all kinds of additional rights. And more and more over time.

Several other countries are almost as bad. with Holland and Germany a close second. And Germany catching up.

In Sweden, the right, and the anti-immigration party are now at no 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCGedOGCrnQ If this continues there will be a lot of trouble here in Europe. They are (of course) called racists, and accused of the "crime" of intolerance... By the government and leftists/progressives/liberals. And they will get in. Other countries like France and Germany will soon match them. The people are noticing but only where its already too late!

And https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWSMURYM7bA
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 23 Sep 2016, 18:59

After riots, polls about how popular she is, and how the rest of the EU are now flooded with imigrants too because of her open invitation, and because of her/EUs free borders policy across the EU,

Angela Merkel NOW says:

Muslims will leave Germany "after the wars end"?


Muslims have been at war with the world since the 7th century, so good luck with that. At least she said that word!

TODAY news http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/713 ... ela-Merkel

And:

Meanwhile, another shock survey shows xenophobia is rising in the ex-communist east of Germany, while far-right violence and attacks against migrants rose dramatically last year.

Germany recorded 1,408 violent acts carried out by far-right supporters last year, a rise of more than 42 per cent from 2014, and 75 arson attacks on refugee shelters, up from five a year earlier.

Iris Gleicke, the federal government's commissioner for eastern German affairs, added: "Right-wing extremism in all its forms poses a very serious threat for the social and economic development


Its not a phobia if they really are out to get you or ruin your country. But its always, racism. xenophobia, etc if you don't agree with the idiots in charge. Thats how they shut down any reasoned discussion. For now.

You in the US and we in the UK have all this to come. Its happening and most people are unaware. Its kept hidden. Sweden is already gone. Denmark, and Norway pretty bad, others not too happy.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Lord Chatterley » 27 Sep 2016, 11:25

White people are becoming fed up of being blamed for everything bad that happens in the world.

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 27 Sep 2016, 11:59

Its not just Paris.

Anyway, that guy that filmed that must be a Islamophobic racist! Because we are supposed to welcome it, and all the crime and violence it brings with it.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 27 Sep 2016, 20:12

For you Americans, mrs merkel is the boss over in Germany!

She recently opened the borders to immigrants, inc the so called refugees although most are fighting age men and are really economic migrants /other and almost all Muslims. Over a million so far in a small country. She has caused a massive backlash and the people object to the huge changes, rapes, murders etc. And so in the last 4 years a new party arose. So far they have 20% of the vote. And climbing fast. They are anti Muslim. Soon they will get into power.

This is mirrored in many countries across the EU. Esp France, the Scandinavian countries, the dutch, etc. Even signs of this in Italy. It will force the current leftist/progressive governments to wake up. Or they will be out! Weather it happens soon enough or before there is a lot of violence or internal fighting is debatable. But the people will only stand so much.

Not sure if this BBC news site works in the US? Please let m know!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37284994
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37409451
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37403542
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby hobie1dog » 27 Sep 2016, 20:49

the big Debate was last night and the didn't really say anything about immigration policies
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 27 Sep 2016, 21:17

Because over the years any mention of anti religion, or race, for any reason, even ones of safety, or whatever have been silenced by the leftist/progressives/multiculturalists agenda, by labeling anyone with any opinion no mater how honest or legitimate, as a racist, or Islamophobic. Its done gradually by desensitizing you via the TV to multiculturalism etc. So any mention = bad man... Because most of the people have been brainwashed for years to accept it.

Across much of Europe this is just beginning to be noticed.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 28 Sep 2016, 01:35

Crazy. Maybe everybody should pay compensation to everyone else for stuff that happened from the iron age onwards.

Or before? Maybe we should get compensation from xstians for that apple lark?
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 28 Sep 2016, 08:17

Around here its mostly white. Even so, if you place an ad for care workers, you get an overly high proportion of black, Filipino (I employed one) and polish applicants compared to the general population. However there are a lot of Chinese here compared to the above, and I never once saw a Chinese carer. And never any applicant. I or anyone wouldn't be able to employ one if I tried. They are all running around clutching degrees, studying, etc looking for well paid jobs. Or running Chinese takeaways/restaurants!

Likewise if you place an ad for a doctor, you get primarily black, or Indian applicants according to my own doctor. And you will seldom find Asians in construction for eg. But they, are over represented as dentists! Plumbers. Most are white or polish! I have no idea why. Trying to employ the right amount of each, as a business is just stupid!

Likewise, employing Muslims is problematic. THEY made it so. They expect special privileges, prayer rooms at work, wearing a bag over their heads in a school classroom is one more e.g, So choosing not to employ one, or any group/race isn't racist at all, just simple business sense. Likewise, discriminating against or for different groups may be on work ethic. such as eastern europeans, Just like Irving here viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6322#p90003 THAT isnt discrimination either. Its common sense based on observation.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Lord Chatterley » 06 Feb 2017, 19:23

Muslims and one way to deal with them - philosophy that BM would approve of 9 mins to 13.30 mins.

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Lord Chatterley » 08 Feb 2017, 20:49

Swedish cop Peter Springare revealed that the crimes he is processing, which include rape, assault, violence against police, drug trafficking and murder, were almost exclusively committed by someone named “Mohammed” or a variation of that name. The suspects were also invariably from Iraq, Turkey, Afghanistan, Somalia, or Syria.

Springare acknowledged that his post was “not politically correct” but that he “doesn’t give a shit”.

This story will never end until the root issue is addressed.

http://www.infowars.com/swedish-spring- ... es-public/

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Lord Chatterley » 08 Feb 2017, 20:56

I suspect someone is being a trifle sarcastic.

"A shocking video from August 2016 has resurfaced, showing the harrowing faith of starving men, women and children of all ages fleeing their war-torn country in search of a peaceful place to quietly live out their lives.

Although it cannot be confirmed the footage below concerns the exact same boats, it’s a heart-warming thought to know it’s very likely these families in distress were rescued by the Italian Coast Guard under EU command, to be escorted safely to the European mainland where they can apply for asylum and strengthen the Old Continent’s social fabric.

Faith in humanity restored."

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

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Burgerman wrote:http://www.infowars.com/poll-clear-majority-of-europeans-want-total-ban-on-muslim-immigration/


All those poor women and children...

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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Burgerman » 09 Feb 2017, 05:36

Quite.

Except as we all know, there are almost non. What we see are children of fighting age with beards seriously abusive and rude attitude problems and iphones. Here to get the free stuff the west is giving away. What is extremely scarce are disabled old or women/children. But when spotted these are what are put in front of the leftists medias cameras. But the population are no longer fooled by the media.

Lets see... Stay home in filth and poverty of their own (backward religous) doing. In a violent desperate place, with no free stuff. Or take merkels offer of free housing 10x better than anything they ever had, free money, free clothes, free medical care, clean shops, clean streets, cars, food, and all for nothing. What do they bring? All that marvelous multiculturalism. Rape, filth, attitudes that just dont fit with the civilized world. Ignorance, rudeness, plenty of crime, and of course violence and their ideology disguised very thinly as a religion, that cant stand the west wants shria law, and that wants you dead and islam to spread over the planet.
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Re: Muslims and why Trump is right

Postby Lord Chatterley » 10 Feb 2017, 17:24

I am not an animal lover but one of the most telling things is the appalling way they treat animals.
They have brand new Toyotas, latest iphones, and clothing, smart tv's, various other tech, all provided "free" by Western govts. businesses and charities and they still treat animals like garbage - broken and diseased dogs, goats and donkeys everywhere.

They have the material consequences of civilisation but they are entirely without the civilised values and culture that created the material commodities.

Indeed they actually detest the civilisation that give rise to those commodities.

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