PINNED - Info on PROGRAMMING PGDT and others

[woodygb]

Apologies for my error with the now deleted post.

Your wiring seems correct ....

[woodygb]

Device manager says that the cable drivers installed correctly?

You have checked that the Com Port assigned by Windows to the USB Cable is between 1 and 8 inclusive? ...

The programming software lets you select the Com Port assigned to the cable.?

[ejf]

HOWEVER, I do not know how to set the COM port in the software!
(I assumed it just looked through the first 8 for a suitable target.)

What's the secret to setting the COM port in the software?

[Burgerman]

top menu, then options>comms opens a box...

[woodygb]

top menu, then options>comms opens a box...

...Yup ...YOU have to select Comms port number.

If the software is complaining ... Unable to open Serial port ...then it's more than likely a port number mismatch.

[ejf]

Hmm. This (above) is the program I'm trying to use. Maybe it will not work with a VR2 controller...?

[rover220]

program.jpg

Hmm. This (above) is the program I'm trying to use. Maybe it will not work with a VR2 controller...?

That's for rnet not Vr2

[Burgerman]

http://www.cw-industrialgroup.com/Produ ... ammer.aspx

VR2.

Its available around here...

[steves1977uk]

program.jpg

Hmm. This (above) is the program I'm trying to use. Maybe it will not work with a VR2 controller...?

As rover said, that's the completely wrong software you're trying to use. You need the Mobility PC Programmer software for the VR2.

Steve

[ejf]

OK. I obviously had the wrong software.

Thanks for all of the super help.

I will probably start a new thread in the near future to gather up my results. (From a newbie point of view, the very valuable information that I used was a little bit too dispersed in such a a long discussion thread.) But let me know if I'm potentially violating protocol...

[woodygb]

Did you "find" the correct software?

From a newbie point of view, the very valuable information that I used was a little bit too dispersed in such a a long discussion thread

It would indeed be best to replace the first post in this thread with an up to date drawing and more concise explanation.... I'm not sure if that is possible.

[ejf]

Did you "find" the correct software?

Yes, I have different software which allows me to verify that the cable is doing everything that's required. Thanks!

[DSmidgit]

Looking for PGDT software 14.4.4 MAN version. Can anyone help me? Need to program a VR2.

[gcebiker]

Ive only 9.8.2

[Burgerman]

He is sorted I think.

[steamtrain]

Hi! I also am looking for the elusive Mobility PC Programmer software for the VR2. I see many "check your inbox" messages after requests for links to this software, so it might be an "ask and ye shall receive" sort of a thing. I don't want to bypass any rites of passage, but I'm starting to feel like it isn't out in the open. Thanks for your help!!

[steves1977uk]

Check PM steamtrain

Steve

[Positive_Bunny]

Hello everyone,
I've found my way here via the "Everything Powerchair" thread. My problem is the "Throttled to PPP" post. My medema minicrosser M2 has had it's programming altered to Medema "company policy" according to the dealer. The dealer is sticking to the its policy line and I've run out of patience and money This has lead to it being slow (max 6mph), sluggish generally an usable liability. I use my Salsa M chair but to enjoy outdoor family life I need the off-road ability.
It has a LCD tiller which used to have a inclinometer and thermometer, now replaced by a company details ad after the "service".
It can be programmed via the tiller LCD. (pic 1) but impossible to get the code.
The controller is a P&G S-drive 200. (pic 2) programmable via a lead and software?
I've read a few of the posts and there seems to be variety of leads and packages. Only problem is I'm not sure which way to go?

If you could advise me on which cable that would be great. I don't know if going in though the XLR socket will give me the access the controller settings and the setting for the display on the LCD (I would like the thermometer back) or if I could do it via the molex on the controller? Or is it all field software / engineer software. Maybe it's a controller, microprocessor combination. Oh man. Probably some medema only thing. I did not seem like a rom flash the mileage remained. As you can probably tell I could do with your idea's.

Your advice would be greatly appreciated ,

Cheers,

David.

[LROBBINS]

David,

Have you contacted the factory (in Denmark I think you said)? The British dealers may just be (1) ignorant and (2) lying.

[woodygb]

@David ...you have a P.M.

[Positive_Bunny]

LROBBINS,
That's a good idea, yes Denmark. They seem to be a good quality company from the website and the companies origin story. I know this will sound like I'm a wimp, but I am exhausted and if they point me back to the dealer, I won't trust them to fix a puncture. I will never go back to them. All trust has gone. I would not feel safe. Scary. I'd bet they would hammer me for another £250. Self reliance is the future for me.

Woody,

I've sent you a PM.

Once again thank you to the group,

Cheers,

David.

[woodygb]

Drop them an email and ask about "company policy" but point out that YOU OWN the scooter and they have no right to alter any settings without your express permission.

[ex-Gooserider]

Possibly even get a lawyer to send the letter - pointing out that your property was modified without your permission, and that they can avoid further action by restoring your scooter to it's previous state.... (Send to both dealer and manufacturer...) For some reason, letters from lawyers can be more effective at 'attitude adjustment' than simply letters from us peasants....

ex-Gooserider

[Positive_Bunny]

Cheers Woody & ex-Gooserider,
After the drama of dealing with the dealer I just can't take any more, I'd love to use the law to make the point that they are out of bounds. Afraid it all comes down to money. Every time it goes to the dealer its £250. I've been drained dry both from a monetary and emotional account point of view. They are not nice people to talk to. I will build up my reserves and give head office a try. I will not go back to the dealer though, I was left in no doubt as to their feelings on the matter. They held no punches. Self reliance is the future. The more I read about the DIY attitude of the group and how it produces much better solutions, I think I will go that way with my chair (wheelchair services that's another story) and the minicrosser.

Cheers guys I really appreciate your time and input into all this I had nearly given up hope.

David.

[LROBBINS]

Sending a lawyer's letter to both the dealer and manufacturer shouldn't cost much, and with some luck you might find a lawyer willing to do that pro bono. I suggest you write a draft letter; keep it short, polite but without any waffling. It's enough to say that dealer xxx changed your chair without your consent and as it's your property not theirs it should be returned to its original state at no further cost to you.

[derde]

Hello guys! I'm reading old threads now for hours. Searching for an working source for the "mobility pc programmer software" (solo controller) My head is already crumbling, can someone help me out?

[woodygb]

Yes ...

You need the Industrial software for the SOLO.

[flagman1776]

The fools at the dealership probaby didn't keep a copy of the original settings and will deny they changed anything. And since the owner/users don't have access to the settings, we can't prove they did. IF the owner had access, they'd just fix the settings & flip the dealer the bird.

[woodygb]

The fools at the dealership probaby didn't keep a copy of the original settings and will deny they changed anything. And since the owner/users don't have access to the settings, we can't prove they did. IF the owner had access, they'd just fix the settings & flip the dealer the bird.

I've a feeling that the Crosser's scooter console is being used as an intermediary between the throttle and the controller and it is this that has been altered... thus reprogramming the controller may not initially help.
However ..It should be fairly easy to reroute the throttle and bypass the intermediate board IF this is indeed the case.

[Positive_Bunny]

Burgerman & Woody,
Your both spot on. The tiller LCD computer regulates speed increments, lights, reverse and used to display useful info angle / temp etc. I can't see any signs of opening of the tiller body, I think they went into the tiller micro via the XLR socket. Is is possible to make a Molex & XLR, double headed cable?
This is may be relevant. I had an engineer out to the house about a year ago (yep £250). After much wrangling (company policy, you wont tell anyone, bribe) he let me set the pin to my own value. Which worked fine until this sorry state where it when back to the shop. They must have connected to the LCD tiller micro via the XLR and used some Medema software to wipe out the settings (I never told them the code) and remove features (angle / temp) and place their shop advert on the lcd and cripple it. I am hopeful that if I can connect to the XLR with the right software I can gain access to the LCD micro and reset the pin. With a controller Molex connection that would be covering all bases.

Thank you gentlemen for your help, The group is the only thing stopping me working my way though 1 code at a time but that's madness would take months.

Cheers,

David.