You can now buy these chairs

[Tomkilmore]

And when I said 'right' I meant 'industry standard' which is obviously 'terrible' However my clients will know that this is how the chair would come from a manufacturer and how essential it is to be re- programmed to suit them.

[Tomkilmore]

I'll look into it, thanks

[rover220]

I bought the controller a while ago, knowing what I know now, I probably wouldn't buy from sunrise, I did enquire to curtis before I started the comapny and they wouldn't sell to me. Hopefully they will now.

Pgdt generally won't sell to the public.

[Burgerman]

Well they did me! Several times. It depends if you sound like you know what you are doing I think. And VAT free.

[rover220]

Well they did me! Several times. It depends if you sound like you know what you are doing I think. And VAT free.

Hence generally.

[Burgerman]

If you are modding, for sport, soccer etc, building off road and sound like you know what you are doing and wont hurt yourself or anyone else they generally have no prob. Same with programmers. But they will only sell those to me either with a frustrating "discussion" or with a controller...

Either way its a frustrating state of affairs. Tom Kilmore shouldnt have any bother. Letterheading, phone call, discussion and done!

The secret is to tell them exactly what you need it for, and be sure to mention a load of settings you need to configure to suit the motors (M. Comp, brake timing and voltages, torque settings, adjusting setting safety walls (limits) for users to aid stability, etc) so that they can see you are not just guessing and you understand why you need oem access. If they are sure you are safe they have no worries. If not, they mention not supplying companies, training courses etc...

Pgdt generally won't sell to the public.

Yes well... Have you spoke to the average member of the public? Or even most chair techs! You cant blame them for checking people out slightly.

[Burgerman]

Just ask if you need programming help.

http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/BM3-con ... Script.txt Why does this particular script version have no motor compensation when the stick is pulled back beyond 0 throttle point? -But it does for turns.

Seriously. I am having a laugh. Only Lenny understands this code! And he is busy making his brain smoke right now!

[steves1977uk]

I tried to register my OEM programmers with PGDT, so I could get the latest software updates a few years ago. They refused to add them to my support account I have with PGDT, because I bought them from Taiwan and not directly through them (which I tried to do in the first place!). They allow the Dealer versions, since I got it through a mobility company.

I explained in an e-mail that I rebuild my chairs and fit new motors to them (with able-bodied people helping me), hence I need access to Motor Compensation and all the other settings, but PGDT still refused to allow me to get access to the latest OEM software for my R-Net dongle and the Mobility Programmer for the Pilot+. So if Tom can achieve this, I'd be well impressed.

Steve

[Burgerman]

Well he is building chairs. A letterheading goes a long way.

[Tomkilmore]

That script is crazy, it's like a whole different language! It's one thing setting a chair up through the User Interface, but to program it from scratch like that looks like a massive undertaking, and ALOT of time learning, I'm not afraid to admit it, but its above me at the moment, but fortunately whilst using the 120a curtis controller I don't have to worry about any of that because it's already been done and tested for production. My elder brother is an electrician (packaging machines ) and has done some plc programming, I will show him it, never know he might take an interest!
Just a thought, if the curtis 120 controller is the highest amp mobility controller available on the market, could you guys bring a higher amp controller to the market?, I'm not sure what this would involve but the first step would to get one working and you've already done that. Could be aimed at the larger individual but then used buy whoever Like I say, just a thought.

[Burgerman]

I dont think you have any comprehension of what that would involve. But it certainly wouldnt be cheap or fast.

Incidentally I think you are confusing curtiss and curtis...

[steves1977uk]

PGDT are part of Curtiss-Wright now, and Curtis make their own controls. The R-Net PM I have says pgdt.com on its label and the newer ones have curtiss-wright on them.

Steve

[rover220]

There is Curtis and curtiss-wright. 2 different companies.

[Irving]

It might be possible to up-spec an existing controller with better/more MOSFETs (though may need to buffer out the gate drive and will need to spoof the current sensing somehow). Some research and a board (dead or alive, for inspection) required.

[LROBBINS]

If the script is ever in a final form, all the user has to pay attention to is the list of "user settings" at the top - shouldn't ever have to bother with the actual code. The CANbus version is even easier as it has a separate Programmer node that connects between PC and CANbus from which one can access all of the user settings without ever looking at the script, or the programming of the other modules, at all. However, just physically wiring up a Roboteq is a lot more complex endeavor than hooking up a PGDT, Dynamic, or Curtis wheelchair controller, and making all the circuitry for various CANbus modules is a lot of work and takes some particular skills. If running at 24V, the commercially-available controllers, though costly if you add tilt/lift/lights/specialty controls etc., is certainly quite adequate for almost all users (as long as you have OEM programming access). Ciao, Lenny

[Tomkilmore]

I don't want to comprehend what that would involve, I'll leave it to you guys
I am abreviating curtiss-wright to curtis,I want to call them P&G but theyr'e not called that anymore, I've been on the CW website and picked all the parts I want, so going to try and order them shortly.

[Burgerman]

Curtiss! (as Curtis are another company making different controllers.)

http://curtisinstruments.com/?fuseactio ... prodID=473

[Tomkilmore]

Just to let everyone know, I secured my first sale today! To a nice guy too, it will be a pleasure to build for him, I will ask him to do a review on here once he has run her in. Should be about 4 weeks.

[expresso]

thats great - Congratulations - looking forward to the review - i wish you many more orders to come -

[Tomkilmore]

Another update, I now have 3 full chair sales and a 4th very bespoke chair, and some parts orders, hopefully reviews will start appearing in June Anyone ordering a chair now will have a 4/5 week wait before I can start.

[expresso]

very good Tom - hope they keep ordering -

[Princess Myia]

Very very interesting post and one that I will follow with interest.

My husband and father have built me a cheaper version of BM's chair, with only a little success, it still has huge limitations.
So if I could buy one already done? Wow that would be a game changer.