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Hyperion EOS 0720I NET3


Hyperion's incredibly flexible wheelchair (and every other battery type)  charger! 

This charger is sold mainly to model aircraft and model helicopter enthusiasts.

Hyperion EOS0720I NET3

However it can happily charge any type of battery available at up to 20 amps as required!  So wheelchair and scooter batteries of up to 100ah plus are no problem at all.

I use it to charge everything from my vehicle batteries to my powerchairs and all my hobby stuff (aircraft, helicopters etc)

The clever part is that it runs from either a 12v or a 24v power supply or with a suitable wall powered supply.  Power supplies to do that are bought separately.

Or it runs from any 12v wheelchair or automotive battery as well. Or a PAIR of batteries at 24v just like out powerchairs and scooters.  You will need a power/charge Anderson connector fitting to your powerchair or scooter.  And another fitted to your vehicles battery ideally.

So that means I can use it to charge either a wheelchair or scooter whilst you drive, or while out and about - or - It also means that if your cars battery goes flat (like you left the lights on at the cinema or whatever) you are not left stranded as you can charge your cars battery directly from your powerchair as well!  As a wheelchair user you don't need me to tell you how useful that might be...

Works both ways. 12v to 12v, 12v to 24v, 24v to 12v etc... What's more its very configurable, in that you can tell it how many (maximum) amps to take from your source and also set the charge rates separately too.

And you can charge everything else you own - better than the cheap chargers they come with - from your camera to your laptop batteries, or anything else that's rechargeable!  And graph its performance to monitor its condition over time. And its a much better charger with peak detect / float / trickle settings (adjustable) and many other advanced charge and discharge features.

You can control the power it draws from wherever you plugged it in. So a maximum of say 8 amps if you are connecting to a cigarette lighter socket in a car is sensible for e.g.. Or the charge socket on a powerchair or scooter. (Once you fit the Anderson connectors there is no limit though) So it doesn't get hot or blow any fuses...   All of this requires some knowledge of basic electrics of course, and a few leads and cables making up.  But its incredibly useful.

In addition it can charge Lithium Polymer battery packs of up to 7 cells (at up to 20 amps) and balance the individual cells.  And lithium Ion, as well as Lithium Ion Phosphate (123 cells).  And large numbers of Nickel Cadmium, and Nickel Metal Hydride at one time. Or one at once.

But the most USEFUL thing it does is connect to a PC and allow you to Graph each and every one of your batteries in your powerchair (or ANY battery) as the charger discharges it while you sleep!. So I know when to order a new mobile phone battery, as well as monitoring my powerchairs batteries.

You choose the discharge rate to coincide with the batteries rated (20 hour rate) capacity. So a 70 ah battery should be able to deliver 3.5 amps for 20 hours. You set this in the charger and it automatically discharges the battery at a fixed current to a safe level (you choose) down to a preset voltage limit and graphs the results. 

This allows you to clearly SEE its performance, its exact capacity in Ah or Amp Hours, (or m/Ah hours) as well as displaying its internal resistance in m/Ohms.

This means that after a few months you can run the test again and display a new graph to see EXACTLY how much your batteries have deteriorated. In huge detail.

And you can save all these records/graphs for later on your PC.

If you have many batteries as I do then it helps to label each one with a new date and a number so you don't get confused!  And give the file the same number. 

It will help you decide the best time to replace you batteries. You can see how much capacity they still have, and more importantly you can see if the internal resistance has increased which is another big issue with powerchair batteries. (or any batteries) An example graph is below. 

The graphs below is from a used and abused 68Amp Hour (Ah) AGM wheelchair deep cycle Hawker Odyssey battery.

The voltage difference between on and off load and ohms law gives the charger an accurate internal resistance figure for any battery connected to it. This is potentially more important than the usual wheelchair tech guys "capacity test" if he even knows how to do that... As you will see below.

It will also tell you exact amp hours provided to a few decimal places from fully charged down to your chosen cut off voltage as it DISCHARGES your battery. And again as it charges your battery (or string of batteries)

And an average internal resistance figure over a charge/discharge cycle. That increases as the battery becomes more discharged. The figures given here are for fully charged batteries.

Charge graph. This is a typical 2 stage CC/CV charge algorithm. Notice it charges at 20 amps (I chose that figure and that's maximum for this charger although the battery has no upper limit) until battery voltage achieves its target voltage of 13.8v (*in this case).

And then the current is automatically reduced to keep at or below the (green line) 13.8v level. The first stage then is chosen by you. And the bigger figure you choose the faster your battery charges. Modern lead based batteries can be charged very fast! 100 amps on a powerchair AGM battery is not considered too much by the manufacturers of the batteries. The second stage is simply a maximum safe voltage that wont cause the battery to gas or vent. It is chosen in this case by the charger at 13.8v.

As the battery charges the current (red line) falls away naturally as the battery becomes easy to hold at 13.8v as time goes on and battery becomes charged. Once the current falls below a pre determined low figure the battery is considered charged and the charger switches off. This is the 2 stages of the charger. If it then switched to 13.2 or 13.4 ongoing (for ever) so as to maintain (float) charge it would be a 3 stage charger. It does not do this it simply fully charges and switches off.

In this case above the battery had just been discharged to 10.8v or 1.8v per cell over 10 hours (in the graph below). So was completely discharged down to a very low level. It took 62.5 Amp/Hours to completely top it up over a 7.5 hour period. Although it was 90 percent charged in 4 hours. 

The 13.8v charge voltage on this charger works safely but is less than ideal for charging modern lead acid (Pb) batteries. A figure of 14.4v (Gel, wet, sealed) or 14.7v (AGM)  is much faster and completely safe. After discussing this with the manufacturers the firmware is to be updated to reflect this (very soon) and will be available on Hyperion's Web Site ready to update your charger.

Discharge Graph.   Shows a fully charged 68ah AGM wheelchair battery over 10 hours at 6 amps continuously down to 10.8v (1.8v per cell).  Its actual capacity was 61.5 Amp Hours.  That's pretty good.

I tested a less than one year old Hawker Odyssey 1500T battery here, and here is the result. (this was from an old unloved chair that gets very abused! And not charged as often as it should be..

Internal Resistance measured at full charge was 11 m/Ohm (increasing to 18 m/Ohm as it becomes discharged.

It was just 2.5 m/Ohm when new under a year ago. So it is now 4x worse here!

That means 4x the voltage drop under load. That's why wheelies and steep ramps became a struggle. And why I tested it. New batteries needed!  At least for this chair that this battery came from.

Another lighter user with a lower powered and less aggressively programmed powerchair with less greedy motors probably wouldn't notice much wrong as his peak current draw is lower and less often used. And the battery would appear to perform normally  Since their chair wouldn't draw so much current (amps) and the voltage sag wouldn't be as severe and go un noticed. 

Capacity (storage capacity) tested at 61.5 Ah. Considering that it was tested over the 10 hour rate that's almost as "good as new" as far as capacity is concerned.  Was 67.5 Ah when new.

Capacity isn't much worse than new comparatively so range wouldn't be effected. That's why its not possible to say a battery is "good" or "bad" as it depends on usage, and what exactly you test for. Which specific powerchair and even programming settings change the requirements. For my purposes its now useless!

Gel batteries like MK batteries for example have 4.5 m/Ohm resistance when new. That means they start off twice as bad as the AGM Hawker Odyssey or Optima batteries I prefer.

What's more they are actually designed to increase their internal resistance as they become discharged. So that they "feel" flat as they become discharged and in fact become useless well before you actually get to use the real full capacity.

In other words they may "have" 70 Ah capacity if you just draw say 3.5 amps for 20 hours (that's how batteries are rated - say 70Ah @ the 20 hour rate) but when you try to remove great sudden "lumps" of power like a 100 amps or so to climb a curb they cannot access the reserves due to voltage sag.  Resistance in a battery is a bad thing!

They simply don't let you access their reserves!  This makes them perform worse but protects them from deep discharge damage by being starved of sufficient acid in the Gel (this weakens and is used up chemically during discharge) and as such they give better cycle life of typically 500 cycles. AGMs typically give 400 cycles. Both at the same 80 percent discharge level.  The difference is that at 80 percent discharge the AGMs still feel "strong" and can still produce many amps without huge voltage sag.

Hyperion EOS0720I NET3 CHARGER

I charge everything from single AAA batteries (All types) to huge packs of them at once. And mobile phone batteries right up to big wheelchair Lead Acid batteries with this one charger! IT DOES EVERYTHING. Including the fancy Lithium Polymer ones in my helicopter.

And I charge from battery to battery, or from a power supply. And I graph and measure the various batteries performance in all cases on my PC so can see the extent of any deterioration.

If you are an interested end user. hobbyist, powerchair user or especially if you are a service guy for wheelchairs you NEED one of these to test batteries properly!  And they cost no more than a basic small powerchair charger...

 

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